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    Question

    Ebb,
    I sure you filled us in before , but what is up with the 'keyhole' in your transom?
    And what is the water tank surfaced with ?

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    the real diesel

    Mike,
    Keyhole slot is where a key is inserted to start the boat. Pg 9 #127

    Tank Coating is epoxyproducts.com NSP 120 / NSF 61 Approved Potable Water Epoxy. Read the MSDS.


    If anyone is prone to using this product for this use: I do not advocate the use of this product for drinking water.

    I will, after the tank is set up, and flushed a couple times, fill it with water and keep it in there for 8 weeks or so, after which I'll have it tested for the specific chemicals that might have leached from the epoxy. If something shows up I will run it thru a carbon filter and test the water again.

    I do not trust THE chemical industry nor THE regulators to come clean with the consumer. The coating is applied outside of laboratory control by an unlicensed, untrained, probably-guilty-of-something (PGOS) individual. It is best to be wary of approvals and claims and the language used to describe attributes and limitations of a product. IMCO the only approvable containment for potable water is mineral glass. Haven't found a paint-on version yet. Nearly ALL plastics have been proven many times over to be a gamble or downright dangerous. Not sure about bakelite.
    Last edited by ebb; 02-14-2005 at 05:46 PM.

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    Not only are these glass classics seaworthy and well built but can be customized and updated to whatever you need. Great job, you have inspired me to install/ build internal gas tanks for the outboard engine and maybe some other things for my Commander. I'm still thinking/ looking/planning on how to raise and lower the outboard motor with some mechanical contrivence. Impressive, well done.

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    Looking forward to reading of your exploits!

    Self built-in frp gas tank is a real challenge.
    Don't ever want to leak into the boat
    or into the environment.

    I have wondered at times how to go about getting them CG approved. I have wondered if I should bother at all. Might try to locate a certified tank tester. Must be live tank certifying tank testers around, right? The test would require the tank hold a certain amount of pressure for a certain length of time. I would do the air pressure test first myself - it has to be the same as the one used for new plumbing at a construction site.

    But I have a feeling that even if the tanks passed they wouldn't be approved for gas because there probably are no regs for plastic gas tank testing. No sane person would think of it!

    The only legal tanks are store bought.
    Last edited by ebb; 02-16-2005 at 07:43 PM.

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    OB Lift

    Robert,
    Have seen a photo of a rail/slide gizmo hung on a transom that caused the motor to be lifted out of the water. The OB clamped to it. So it may be a market item. Getting the motor out of the water straight up would require a whole lot of travel in the device. Now, if you could lift it up to a point and then tilt the OB that might work. But not in the Ariel well. Unless you were tempted to put a keyhole (as Mike Called it) in the transom.

    Straight up lift would require 12 to 18" (?). To cover the hole in the aft 'deck' the hutch/hatch on 338 has to clear 14" above the deck. And that's a tilted motor.

    Must be a reason why for four decades skippers have lifted a two-cycle out and laid it sideways in the Lazerette or below.

    The guy who invented the CapeHorn steering vane had a Triton. He rigged his OB on a spar that pivoted amidships off his starboard side, I think, that he lowered and raised with block and tackle at the cockpit. You may find his web site. He did some serious cruising. But what happened to the motor on a portack?
    Last edited by ebb; 02-19-2005 at 05:30 PM.

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    Yves Gelinas and his A30 Jean du Sud. I recomend his film about his round about. Groovy little boat too.

    www.capehorn.com

    I have to use the English site still

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    Thanks for posting Gelinas' page here. The 10 horse OB was mounted off his port quarter. Just visited real quick.

    The boat was an A30. Way to go Carl!

    His dodger instead of ss tubes had cloth/rubber ones that were kept pressurized with a pump. Collapsable in way of a comber.

    His Cape horn vanes are guranteed for one circumnavigation.

    A bon viveur with boatfuls of bons mots.

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