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GreggA107
07-20-2011, 04:41 AM
Did a search in Technical section of the Discussion Board for icebox latch and found nothing. Can anyone advise if there's somewhere that sells this type of latch or that has used parts?

I know some of you guys have totally removed the ice box from your vessels but I want to keep mine as original as possible.7601

ebb
07-20-2011, 08:10 AM
Gregg,
Take a look at
www.kennedyhardware.com
for 1/2" offset chrome/nickel plated icebox LATCHES.

100% of retro icebox latches are lever style with a spoon-like handle.
You may find a suitable one probably in plain brass.
Want the end of the handle to close as close to the door surface as possible so nothing gets caught under it and yanks the door open.

Might have to settle for a 3/8" orffset and shim the catch up off the case.
Be careful when ordering: I've seen pictures of "LEFT hand" latches where the handle is on the right side of the door like ours and the hook-like catch is on the case.
The nice but funky cast plated latch that came with A338 was a lever with a unique rounded OVAL handle.
Less likely perhaps to get caught up in something or to seriously jab you if sticking out.
Total length 4 3/4". The hinge pin was quite worn and the catch went missing.

Good luck finding a replacement.

GreggA107
07-20-2011, 08:17 AM
EBB, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!
On the very first page, of the link you posted was item I-20 in shiney brass! That's the one thing I want to change, instead of having the polished silver looking fittings in the cabin, i'd like to replace with brass (hinges, bulkhead lights, knobs and other fittings). It's even the correct orientation!
7602

GreggA107
07-20-2011, 08:20 AM
Actually I think this one is closer to the original, it's Item# IB-30
7603

ebb
07-20-2011, 08:39 AM
Glad it worked out!
A338's icebox door had nasty stamped hinges - faintly deco.*
I see Kennedy has 'matching' CAST offset hinges.
$$$$$ but definitely the real thing.

You planning on restoring the micarta?
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*Edit. Just went back to see your foto.
Those are the same hinges A338 had.

GreggA107
07-20-2011, 08:41 AM
do you think these will work? They are part number IB-22 and are $8.50 a pair.
7604

ebb
07-20-2011, 08:46 AM
OOOOOOOOOO, F A N C Y !!
So it's going to be a champagne cooler....

GreggA107
07-20-2011, 09:30 AM
I'm from the backwoods of NC, what's champagne? HA!!!!!!

GreggA107
07-20-2011, 09:30 AM
beer in a fancy bottle?

ebb
07-20-2011, 12:50 PM
A toast for an icebox with the most:

"Here's champagne for our real friends and pain for our sham friends."

GreggA107
07-21-2011, 05:32 AM
Hey Ebb,

Hopefully you're still monitoring this thread, got a question for you, under the ice box against the inside bulkhead there is a wooden box like structure with a metal flat bar attached, do you have something like that on your vessel? If so,what's it for? If not, can you venture a guess?

ebb
07-21-2011, 06:46 AM
Hey Gregg,
Haven't the slightest.
Maybe something to do with the box?
Shelf or divider?

DFO's (Dreaded Former Owners) are responsible for a lot of really weird stuff found on a boat.:confused:

Noticed the pattern of the melamine. Two separate pieces had to be used to make the very nicely
matched 'grain' of the door to the case.
The door veneer is larger than the hole in the case.
Makes you almost want to keep it.
I wonder has anybody ever 'varnished', with a matte or satin sheen, of course,
these venerable and historic panels in the Ariel? Maybe that's all they need to spif them up?
Woner what would stick to the phenolic.

c_amos
07-21-2011, 07:41 AM
Gregg,

No idea what the box is. I am one who did the 'iceboxectomy'....
The truth about the ice box. (http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?965-The-truth-about-the-ice-box.&highlight=truth)

I recommend you place some 'dri-deck' in the bottom of the ice box if you are going to use it... the water will pool before it reaches the drain... if you can keep the water draining quickly, you will keep ice longer. See the thread above to see the insulation you have to work with.

The latches you are looking at are really nice....

Just to throw it in there, I kept my old latch and while it is not perfect I would not mind shipping it to you if you would like it.

Just PM me an address, and it will be on it's way.

GreggA107
07-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the offer but I was planning on doing a "brass motif" if you'll mind the expression anyway, just didn't know I could get that particular item. I do want to keep it original to an extent but with a certain "flair". HA! Anyway, I have no plans to actually USE it for an icebox, more dry storage than anything that can be acquired through the portal on the starboard cockpit seat. Like others on the site, I am sure it will become a nusance to me and I'll wind up (having someone else) remove it. Lets just say my handyman skills are more along the lines of sanding, painting and whatever I can mess up with a drill, screwdriver and crosscut saw.

I have found some soft spots on my deck (exactly where others have posted pics of their soft spots) port side and starboard side of the cabin that will need attention but for now, I'm hot to get her in the water, those repairs (which will be left to a professional glassman for core material replacement and reglassing) can wait until the weather is fitting for such activities and not for sailing :) .

c_amos
07-21-2011, 09:24 PM
I think you will be very pleased with the fancy one ebb pointed out...

... he ALWAYS finds the best stuff... (ebb was the reason Faith was one of the first Manson Supreme happy users).

You might find some of these boat projects are more forgiving then you expect.... (maybe not core replacement, but still)...

.... I am very much of the mind set that you will not invest more in them then they repay in satisfaction.

Fair Winds,

GreggA107
08-13-2011, 04:46 AM
Hey, c_amos, tried to send you a message, your maxed out, clear out some room or send me a message with your email address

GreggA107
08-16-2011, 09:25 AM
someone that has c_amos's private email account please tell him to clean out his pearsonariel.org email box HAHAHAHA, it's full.

GreggA107
08-30-2011, 10:42 AM
hey I've tried to send you a message here but it says your mailbox is full, send me one, if you want, send one to my gmail address @ LoneEagleNC. I've changed my mind about the purchase.

c_amos
08-30-2011, 05:58 PM
Sorry man,

I had a delivery (Pearson 424 Tampa, FL to New Bern, NC) and have been gone for a bit. I got home just in time to get a call from the owner to ask to fly me back up to take the boat out into the Hurricane (good times, good times)....

... will try to look for the latch in the next couple days.

mbd
08-31-2011, 05:11 AM
Wow Craig! I for one would love to read about your adventures! Did you post anything over on Sailfar? Hopefully everything went OK!