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    Thanks Ebb. Paging through your refit of A-338, I feel like a cheat - or gloating - with this girl. Hope I deserve her. Plan to do her proud. I couldn't do what you've done (well... maybe... eventually... only if it was my full-time avocation)
    I love to sail, and I love this boat and have for a long time. But, your skills and those of our peers here put my present ones to shame.
    I am humbled - seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg View Post
    Ebb... Paging through your refit of A-338, I feel like a cheat - or gloating - with this girl.
    I know the feeling well Kyle.

    But she's a beauty! What a find. Some interesting mods up in post #13 too. Rub rail on top of the coamings and genoa tracks on the toe rails. What's that square "pad" on the coaming, just aft of the winch? Some sort of backing plate?

    Really nice brightwork too! And man are those Commander cockpits H-U-G-E!!! Sweet!

    We'd love to see more pics! This is, after all, YOUR Gallery page.
    Mike
    Totoro (Sea Sprite 23 #626)

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    Mike - That shot of the cockpit makes it look the size of an oil tanker deck, eh?
    That is a backing plate for a cleat. You know, I hadn't specifically noticed the rub rail on top of the coaming as unique, but it doesn't look out of place and is certainly functional.

    The original owner, named Harry Purinton, raced her ("Restless II") from Sturgeon Bay Yacht Club and he and the next owner Rich Larson set her up for racing as she is. Purinton (I don't know anything about him, but...) was a marine architect and painter of some stature. From the pictures I have, the next owner must have let her go because when Matt got her, she needed a good deal of work. Her present status is a testament to the work he and his wife Mary put into her.

    In the supplies Matt gave me, came a copy of the 1999 article on the Commander from Good Old Boat. I believe it is now out of print. The article doesn't provide a great deal of new information - mostly a story of the relationship between the owners and their boat C-114, their record setting (at the time, for longest Commander voyages) 1200 mile complete circle of the Great Lakes, and some upgrades they did. In the next week or so, I will scan it and post it here.

    couple more pix

    a) the lazarette with engine-hole insert and gastank mounts.
    b) the closed-cell foam cushions for the cockpit and the shorepower inlet. (cushions from http://ccushions.com/boatlistorder.asp)
    c) lovely teak cabin sole
    d) all important head - I do have a three year old after all...
    and sadly...
    e) every lovely has her faults. Two areas on stbd at the waterline about the size of pizza pans with these tiny BB-sized blisters. Open to suggestions for their immediate vs Fall remedies...
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    Might just be a rough surface under the paint. The waterline is hard to keep smooth because slime builds up, dries and hardens there. Areas under the jackstands don't get attention either. Give it a sand and see what you got.

    Sweeeeet boat

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    The fickle finger of fate is pointing to an whole bunch of acne.
    Could it be a wrong mix of bottom paints?
    There's a lot of activity around a waterline if it was starboard to the sun in the marina?
    Cleaning it might have pulled paint off?

    Needs a bottom job. You can't have EVERYTHING.

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    head's up

    Great boat, Kyle. The rubrails on the coamings rock as does everything else. I have three questions:
    [*]Looks like the original tiller?[*]Would love to know the make and model of the portable head that fits so well in that spot.[*]Are the seacocks gone and, if not, were the thru hulls plugged or what?


    Scott

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    Looks like my Ariel has the same portable head as well. (Sanpottie?) Could they be original??

    I like that panel in front of Lucky Dawg's potty too...
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    Randy the service manager at Torresen popped and scraped a couple spots and had no blister worries - no fluid or stink emitted. I didn't lead him at all, just asked "what's the problem and what's the resolution?" He suggested sanding down those areas, repainting and checking again in the fall at haulout. He couldn't see my relieved grin over the phone but I let him know that he was the "Good News Man" of the day. I'm consulting Don Casey for the best approach.

    I will take a couple detail pix today per some of your questions above. I am curious about how (if) the genoa track has backing or if it just attached to the toe rail.

    Scott, funny you should ask, but I am such a newbie that I'm not embarassed to say... I was reading BoatWorks mag last night and an article about seacocks and the thought occurred, "Uh, does this boat have seacocks???" (I probably had a head-cocked-sideways look on my face like a confused dog...) Haven't the foggiest idea where, but on the advice of the author -"Know where your seacocks are and be able to find them and assure closure in the dark and possibly with your hands underwater."

    Good thoughts to occur *b e f o r e* splashing! I think I read of Geoff having that realization at one point, but it didn't click upon reading that time.

    Will be addressing my dearth of knowledge bits at a time over a long while... I appreciate your collective patience with this process.

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