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  1. #121
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    I used Kiwigrip recently on my CD Typhoon and found it incredibly easy to apply. I was able to put it over a darker color with minimum touch-up after a single coat.

    GOB magazine just recently had a very good article on it. They recommend it as possibly a two person job,but I applied it on a cool dry day and had no problem doing by myself and getting the tape pulled before it dried (a important step)
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    KiwiGrip

    quote: "What makes KiwiGrip unlike other coatings is that it's not just another industrial product - it is a marine product developed by a yachtsman for yachtmen." Jamestown $40 qt.
    Give me a break, a marine coating is a marine coating, even if it's used in your basement. And then how does a yachtsman (is HE a sailor?) actually make a better chemist?

    The coating is described as a 'hard acrylic polymer.'
    But it does sound easy to use once you get the knack of getting the texture you want. And pulling the tape.

    Visiting the Pacheca site, the FEEL of the antiskid is never mentioned.
    This raises a red flag. This flag has feet on it, backsides and thighs on it, knees and hands.
    Big flag.

    Comparing from the lit and sample chips I've got in the past,
    I think that going with a less agressive and pliable rubber polyurethane with rubber granules is something to look into before getting HARD.

    just my opinion.
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    Well Mr. Ebb Maybe I will have to drive the Typhoon down so you can roll around on it.

    I would not say it is a "hard" surface, certainly softer than the original and grit and paint surfaces. And it is very sticky, the first mate said it was almost fun to go forward.
    1965 Ariel #331

    'MARIAH'



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    In addition to being a very good sure footed surface (I purchased some and did test samples with it) It allows for many more options on the final texture than you can get with any other product. For example maybe I'm getting old and soft but I do not want to sit on sand imbedded in paint. I where shorts most of the time when I'm sailing and for me that is just too rough to sit on. With Kiwigrip you have the option of taking a finish sander and knocking down the high spots in the areas where you sit and making it much more tolerable for a long day on the water. You still get a sure footed surface but without the irritating pointed particles poking into your bottom.

    In addition there is much less surface prep that needs to be done because it hides a lot of what is under it.

    This is just my opinion but I believe Kiwigrip gives you a finish that is closer to what you would expect on a new boat than any other product I have found. But again that is just my opinion.
    JERRY CARPENTER - C147
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    Any chance we could see some pictures of this product in action??


    Andrew

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    Sorry but I couldn't help myself :-)

    KiwiGrip anti-slip deck coating, best nonskid deck on the market.

    For when traction really matters

    JERRY CARPENTER - C147
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    And here are a couple more;

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    1965 Ariel #331

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    I've already bought the paint supplies for the Noesis' decks. The plan is to apply a few coats of primer for hiding and fill. Trim, cabin top and cockpit sides with white Interlux Brightsides. And the decks with flatten light blue Brightsides with Intergrip added. I need to wait until the weather warms up a bit, we've got new snow on the ground here, but I'm ready.

    I do like the KiwiGrip product. Sounds like less work than using a polyurethane finish. I am torn, does it aesthetically go along with my 1960's yachting reenactment mentality?

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    Heh! In the first picture, it almost looks like the guy on top is drinking a beer...

    Is Kiwigrip hard to clean? My Interdeck is a pain, but does OK with a good stiff brush.
    Mike
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    Mike

    Tim will probably answer your question based on his personal experience but the surface of Kiwigrip from my samples appeared to be very similar to the non-skid on my last boat and I found that Oxi-clean water (hot) with a good stiff deck brush worked very well on that boat. I will find out later for myself if it works as well on kiwigrip.
    JERRY CARPENTER - C147
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    So far it has cleaned off with just a brush and water, but then I haven't spilled anything bad on it.
    1965 Ariel #331

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    While toiling away on Noesis' topsides I was able to install the original deck flange for my old bronze air vent.

    Last year I caulked the venerable air vent in place with 5200 in the existing, too large, deck flange. Which worked alright but didn't allow me to rotate the air vent.




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    Yesterday evening after working on Noesis all afternoon. The sanding, painting and varnishing continues.......


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    You know I never tire of looking at these good old boats. :-)
    JERRY CARPENTER - C147
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    My first time atop Noesis' mast, or any mast. Installed a spinnaker halyard swivel block, topping lift swivel block and new mast spreader boots. Getting high enough to reach the top of the mast required an additional foothold "stirrup" tied to the masthead. Once you get up there it's not so bad.

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