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Thread: Ariel #215...."Revival"...again

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    Smile

    Thanks. That's what I used on the Electra. I found it easy to work with. I'll be at Noah's tomorrow. The trailer was 'home built' by a welder for $3500 Canadian ($3010 USA funds today's rate) It is heavily built and towed well. He is in Windsor...right near Detroit. One way shipping was going to be more. This way I can take it to Florida when done. The trailer will be 'for sale' after that. Revival ain't coming back ;-)
    Last edited by frank durant; 07-08-2009 at 09:06 AM.

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    Frank your bring your Ariel to Florida???

    Are you moving here or just plan to spend the winters here? I live an hour north of Tampa. Where will you be when here?

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    Niether....when #215 is finished, I'll be trailering to Indiantown marina,launching,heading out and not coming back. Plan to store the boat 'on the hard' as we go. Plans are ...as of today...Bahamas to Cuba to Mexico on down to SanBlas islands. This is years away and plans change, but thats the intention now.
    Last edited by frank durant; 07-08-2009 at 12:47 PM.

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    Frank:

    If anyone out there will get it done and be sailing off into the sunset it will be you my friend. Years back I spent a summer up your way at Camp Petawawa doing basic training. We used to go to "town" on days off. Fuzzy memories!

    Nice job getting the boat back home!

    Andrew

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    Too funny...my work is in Petawawa and I grew up in this erea. Thanks f

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    ....."ain't coming back no more..."

    You'll work SO hard.
    When you're done the boat will be SO beautiful....
    she'll take you back, Frank, she will...
    she don't mean it - you'll come back....


    Here in a rare video some white boys pay tribute to Ray Charles'
    Hit the road Fra...Jack.
    From the Text Comments, the 'old man' banging the keys and singing the lyrics is Gary Brooker, fabulous.
    Frank Mead does a gut wrenching sax rif! Man, if I could lay varnish on like THAT!
    and Eric Clapton rips the blues.

    YouTube - Eric Clapton - Hit the road Jack (1989)
    (type it into google just like that)

    [check out the rockin rose bud on the piano]
    That's what you are going there for
    This the feel betta blues, boss!!!
    Last edited by ebb; 07-11-2009 at 07:37 AM.

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    deck recore resource

    http:www.lackeysailing.com/iota/iota.htm

    That's Tim Lackey's site.
    The boat is an east coast Triton,IOTA, that ended up having a complete recore.
    Believe it is in the section called 'Completed Projects.'
    As usual the treat is to follow Tim's forensics as he reveals his starts and stops and the long sufferings of a four decades old Pearson.

    Frank knows what he is doing.
    Yet Tim here has a huge number of photos that illustrate what Frank is getting himself into. For us onlookers.....

    For those of us that haven't had to do it yet.
    .....And of course an Ariel will present its own peculiar details because of its scantlings.
    There's a pic of Tim holding up a piece of the IOTA's deck. It looks like armor plate!
    By the way Tim did NOT replace the original deck pieces but laminated on a completely new top. Which indeed would be the strongest way, as everything can be tied in wet. Considering the number of layers and gallons to make up a 1/4" laminate, it's also the most expensive.

    Enjoy!
    __________________________________________________ _______________________________________________
    BUT how would you replace big piece deck panels:
    ancient brain sez: Drill numerous 1/4" relief holes through-out the panel so that when pressed down into the epoxygel on top of the new core the extra gel will have a place to exit and there will be no trapped air bubbles. Holes won't weaken - and will already be filled!
    Working with that much material means it'll have to be 60degrees ambient or lower!
    imco
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    Thanks for the 1/4 in" holes idea....good thought.The tunes ain't bad either...and the dancing rose
    Last edited by frank durant; 07-10-2009 at 06:36 PM.

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    I've been aboard "Kaholee", the boat next to "Iota" in the first few pics. *Great* work done there. Tim is incredible.
    Kurt - Ariel #422 Katie Marie
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    Small boats, long distances...

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    trailer keel dimension

    I just found the picture of your lovely trailer. As per my new thread on keel dimensions, any chance you could throw a tape measure on that channel the keel sits in on the trailer?

    I would love to know the inside width of it, and how much clearance is left between the sides and the keel where the keel is widest.

    Also, looks like maybe the forward support had to be chopped and welded to hit the hull at a reasonable height, that so?

    Thanks

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    Frenna....sorry to be so late replying. "just" got home from Bahamas and drowned my computer about 3 weeks back. I'll be around her in a day or 2....will measure it then.

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    gratuitus update please...

    Frank

    It's been over a month since you've posted on this thread and that one had nothing to do with two fifteen. What gives? Throw us a bone, would ya?

    I have been through a bunch of your posts (from a while back-eh hemm)scrounging ideas and insights. You've sent me all over the web to Flicka and Dana posts anywhere I can find them. I like the ideas you have for this upcoming refit. Now that you have had a while to think about it some more tell us where you're at. Any new ideas? Any features you've seen on other boats you would really like to build into 215? Come ooonnnn!

    I'm attaching this photo that really has nothing to do with this other thaan maybe flushing you out of the cover you've been under
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    My home has a keel.

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    Hi Tony

    Sometimes "life" gets in the way ;-) We had a busy fall at work last year. I was building a cottage in the Bahamas from Nov. to March...came home to a crazy busy spring here. Not complaining and count my blessings in this economy. #215 sits waiting....trampoline decks,mold and all. This will be a much bigger project than the pictures show. Wanna make waves look small...take their picture. Wanna make a boat look good...take its picture. She is very bad.
    Now the good news. I am presently preparing a gravel base for my new 'shop'. Won't happen tomorrow...but as with most things I do..once started , it'll go quick. Hoping once the base is ready to have the shop up and going within 3-4 weeks. Just trying to fit it in among numerous home sales. When its ready and #215 is inside.....out will come the saws. It won't be pretty. It will look real bad before it gets good. It will be radical yet simple. Hoping to start on the boat by august....hoping. Until then...think 'open', private head and not that complicated a major surgury....but major none the less. At times I've thought I was crazy getting her....then I remember #50 in big wind/waves.....gotta love these Ariels

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    Nothing to do with sailing...but after a very nice spring...it's SNOWING here tonight. Calling for snow tomorrow as well. "global warming" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank durant View Post
    Hi Tony

    Sometimes "life" gets in the way ;-)
    Watch out! Somethimes it's an imposter... You know what 'real' life is.

    Never had the chance to have my soles graced by a Flicka or Dana so I can't speak from experience, but I have tried to 'sit' as if I were on a thunder throne in just about every concievable spot in a striped-out Ariel cabin. I could never find a spot were I could actually...uh...er...'go through the movements, I mean motions' within a realistic space. I was either pinned by a side deck or sticking my elbow out into the walkway. Having the main hatch as a defining landmark for a bulkhead was the most room I could get in the main cabin. Seriously thought about moving the sliding hatch starboard about 4-5 inches. That would give the requisit room for me. It wouldn't be that much work either. Who wouldn't like an enclosed head that would double as a shower too? Maybe I'll give it another whirl.

    Do Flickas (Danas) have a more generous bilge? Maybe we'll have to try superimposing the hull shape of a Flicka in that area over the hull shape of an Ariel in the same area to see how much space we give up because of our slack bilges. I dunno
    My home has a keel.

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