Ariel #215...."Revival"...again

[frank durant]

I'm happy it has life lines.Anyone have a cheapy stern rail for sale?

[c_amos]

Just in case any who are following this may not know, Frank's first Ariel was 'Revival' which he did some amazing work to and cruised aboard.

Here is a link to the thread where you can read about it;

ARIEL # 50 REVIVAL, by Frank Durant

[tsprat]

The festol is way overrated, I have one. The 1/8 sander, It is ok, I have been using my bosch sander on the boat it is more aggressive,. nothing beats the dyna braide or the 3m version

[tsprat]

Frank
what are you going to do for a toilet and holding tank

Tim

[ebb]

Tim,
the Festool sander is an oscillating type.
The others you mention may be grinder or the spinning versions.
They are much more efficient at material removal,
and extremely efficient at getting dust into every nook and cranny of both the boat and the operator.
Ive hunkered down on the F. sander and have gotten some decent material removal, but it is NOT a grinder.
In a boat yard you'd have to tent your boat to use the spinners.
Vacuum enabled sanders will allow you to work in the sunshine.
Although everyone I see in the yard use funky sanders and funky vacuums that do a lousy job collecting dust.
The Festool does an amazing job collecting dust. Inside or out.
If you are sanding this is the only tool on the market that does it dust free.
And that's why they can get what they get for it.

I grinded the inside of 338 down to green polyester with a Makita.
Now I believe it is unnecessary to do this for any restoration/resurrection.

Our old paint must be pretty neutral after four decades.
If I was doing it again I would Festool sand hull and bulkheads with 40 or 60 grit. leaving whatever old paint was firmly attacted.
Any gluing of new bulkheads I might grind down to green for structural epoxy tabbing.
But all the rest of the water resistant coatings inside I'd use waterborne (NO solvent) epoxies and urethanes - paint right over the old stuff, as long as it was well sanded.

Even after grinding there is always paint left behind in the old checkered roving. I've tabbed over a bunch of it and can't imagine the tabbing or filleting letting go.

[frank durant]

Ebb...I agree with you and had NO plans of 'bareing the hull' everywhere inside.I do plan on it for tabbed ereas. As for toilet/tank...just a typical cheapie jabsco head with a minimal tank to be legal and a Y valve overboard. I have found groco expensive to buy as well as their parts with no better service than a $150 jabsco.The 'head' and 'pump overboard' disscusion is much like anchors or favourite vehicles.No true 'correct' answer.

[tsprat]

Ebb I agree with you fully that the festool is a well made and very good at removing dust. But is a tool system were you have to buy in to the whole product line, The tool line is great for a mobile shop. The festool I have is the finishing or 1/8 sander which leaves a very small cross hatch It works well with the 3/16 or intermediate sander. I bought it because I was working with another cabinetmaker who had the intermediate or 1/8 sander and they worked great together. My bosche sander is a random orbit and I hook it to my fein vac and it works. The other two sanders are random orbit too. I just can't get the whole festool ordeal. I guess I am being the one person out there that doesn't get excited when it comes to festool products
Tim

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[frank durant]

Would I be correct in assuming #215 is a 1964 ? Tried the search button but couldn't find years-hull #'s

[Bill]

Would I be correct in assuming #215 is a 1964 ? Tried the search button but couldn't find years-hull #'s

Probably a good estimate. #76 was produced in 1962, the first year. #440 was produced in 1966, the last year for Ariels. If you can research the boat's state title, maybe you can come up with a first year of registration.

[carl291]

Frank,
Ariel 259 is titled as a 1963, the title also says it's a 28 footer, so take it it for what it's worth

[Tim D.]

California has it titled 1965, and think that is probably accurate.

[frank durant]

I need help with measurements. I am getting a trailer made...cheaper than boat movers twice. He asked ...."I need the square configuration if its on a cradle now e.g 6'x10' or
6x12, approximate hieght of post from bottom of keel and length of keel." As #215 is about 500 miles away...can anyone help me out?

[Commander 147]

Here is the link.

http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussi...ead.php?t=1552

Scroll down to post # 11

[frank durant]

Thanks Just what is needed

[frank durant]

I like Ebbs idea of draining aft. I was thinking of reducing the volume of the cockpit by building a storage erea forward...much like James Baldwin did on his triton.This would not only reduce the erea but place the pickups further aft as well (just aft of locker)and I think make the the whole "drain aft" thing more viable. My intention is to avoid thru-hulls if I can. Boats not here yet...just day dreaming. Thoughts?