Deck hardware plan, and

[c_amos]

As I wander through my projects list, I have found my way to the bow.

I am very happy with the 10" cleats aft, and now plan to upgrade the midships cleats to 10" also.

The 'Stainless' cleats have been a bit of a disappointment in the sense that they are not only mostly stainless.

Now thinking about changing over to bronze..... have already sold most of the other stainless ones I had planned to use.

Latest plan includes the removal of the pair of original alloy chocks on the bow and adding a roller on a raised platform (not hanging very far over the bow, with big ole backing plate).

The original dorade is going away (no way to secure it against ingress of water), and a capped deck fitting will go somewhere where it makes sense.

Pair of cleats about 12" aft from the stem fitting will serve for mooring, while the bit will take the anchor rode.

That's the plan anyway, I will post pictures of how it all works out.

OBTW, I am making pads on the deck to mount the bow pulpit, and other hardware on. My hope is that having these areas that are vulnerable to leaks less so.

Anyone know where I can get a good deal on 6 10" bronze cleats?

[Bill]

Anyone know where I can get a good deal on 6 10" bronze cleats?

What about post #25 at http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussi...3247#post13247
??

[commanderpete]

Mid-ship cleats are a good thing. I'm going to install some larger ones

The cowl vent can be a water scoop when its rough out.
Most of the time I have it turned around.

I just picked up this 4" dorade box with baffle on sale for $80. The plan is to remove the cowl vent and mount a nicro solar vent on top of the dorade box.

http://www.marinershardware.com/OrdDorChes.php

If you're going to have an anchor roller platform, that might be a good place to have a tack fitting for an Asymmetrical spinnaker

[c_amos]

What about post #25 at http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussi...3247#post13247
??

Thanks Bill,

If I were going back with the original 6" cleats that would work. I have decided to use 3 sets of 10" bronze hershoff cleats. I am enjoying to larger cleats I have put on the stern, but not enjoying the little bits of surface rust I have had to polish off.... I guess they were 304 and not 316....

My slip faces out to the river, and it can get rough so I like 5/8" lines, and the 10" cleat easily accepts the stern line, and the after spring.

[c_amos]

Early on in this thread I posted;

I have another set of 12” Hershoff cleats I can use, that I was going to place in-line like the cleats are now.

Thoughts?

I wanted BIG cleats... 10" is perfect (IMHO). The 12" cleats looked SO MUCH bigger, and were WAY too large for an Ariel. I sold them to a guy with a 45' powerboat.

[Robert Lemasters]

Recent view of the chocks on my Commander, Njord. I like these, lines have never chaffed even in our recent Nor Easters which damaged lines on my Pearson 26 and the lines never slip out. Note the solar garden stern light, we still do not have electrical power on the dock from three years ago, will remove it when we get electrical sometime next week. Light helps boarding at night.

[c_amos]

Robert,

Those are nice chocks... I understand that is the type they specify for transit of the Panama canal... so in case that is in your plans you are all set.


I have made some progress, the bow roller is mounted, as is the bow pulpit and stantions. I have the bow cleats centered between the mounting bases for the bow pulpit, about 2" in from the rail. (yes, I know... I will take some pictures... )

Now my question is where to mount hte mid ships cleats. I believe that the center of the Ariel falls right in between the portlights. That space is already taken by a stantion. I am thinking that I would rather have them slightly aft of that, as that is probably closer to the center of lateral resistance (where the balance point would be if you tried to drag the boat through the water sideways. A friend of mine made a pretty good argument for trying to figure out exactly where that point was and mountng them there....

I wonder if anyone has looked at this before, or knows a reason why they might be better placed somewhere other then just aft of midships>?

Thanks,

[commanderpete]

Sometimes you want to run a line fore or aft from the cleat.

If the cleat is too close to the stantion the line might rub against it.