John, A fellow WYC member and Sonar racer who lives up the shoreline from the marina, just dragged home his ebay purchase from Cleveland.
Over all she is a very clean and solid old girl. She looks like she has been well kept, loved and only been in freshwater.
C157 will come through our shop this winter with a pretty long list of modifications and upgrades. We will try to keep up with the pics and details.
Anyone have any info on her past?
Mike
C227
Mike
I like the name of 157. What a great thing to tell a customer when they call and your playing hooky sailing..."he is out on a job site". :-)
You should have enough commanders there soon to start having class races.
Looking forward to the pictures.
JERRY CARPENTER - C147
A man can succeed at almost anything for which he has unlimited enthusiam.
Mike
You always seem to bring good news to the forum. I'll buy you a beer for that fact alone!
Did you get any background on her? With the diagram in the forward cockpit I wonder if she was a 'rental'. Either way se was a great find nd I am still amazed at how good these hulls look out of the water. Do you think having the Princess so near swayed John's decision to pick up another boat?
My home has a keel.
I think Mike and "The Princess" have started a Commander revival up there!
Hey Tony, maybe you can have Mike and crew finish up A-113 so you can start Weaving your Dreams sooner?
Mike
Totoro (Sea Sprite 23 #626)
Its #157's turn in the shop. We moved her in a few days ago.
Tim and I have her stripped down and pressure washed inside and out. After we scrape off all the old caulking and silicone we will have us a blank canvas.
We tapped out the deck and found a few areas for core replacement: The whole forepeak forward of the mooring cleat, a small area around the port aft chain plate and the aft half of the cockpit sole. Other than that she is in good shape.
Stay tuned for a long list of mods!
Mike
It's good to see you are saving yet another Commander. You get these boats turned around really quick and they look good. I hope you can save many more of these fine boats.
JERRY CARPENTER - C147
A man can succeed at almost anything for which he has unlimited enthusiam.
Mike , You can't find a customer for Chance's Celi?? That boat is killing me still being up for sail and only 500 miles away from me...... I've promised myself no more till I get one in the water but it not easy seeing that one on the market. Heck for $3500 with all the upgrades and a $5000 trailer to tote it home on??? It's warmer down here this time of year to boot!
Tim plugged away all week on 157.
Serious silicone and caulk removal and general boat clean up.
Bad core cut out of forepeak, aft port chainplate, cockpit sole.
Front hatch and aft lazerette prepped to be glassed over. All holes drilled out and ready to be filled.
Port lazerette reduction in progress. (huh... what could be going on there?)
Bottom of the outboard well has been removed. Wow, what a mess of water and fuel soaked foam and rotten wood!
Cuddy in progress.
Tim, with a little help from Bob made pretty good progress this week.
#1. Forepeak re-cored and glassed over. Forward hatch bottom skin and core bonded in waiting for top skin.
#2. Cockpit sole re-cored and skinned.
#3. Outboard well glassed over, bottom of aft lazerette lowered to accommodate the generator.
#4. port lazerette reduction in progress.
You gonna share what's going on with your laz reduction?
I'm with Carl. Ceili needs to move to MN.
Kyle
C-65 Lucky Dawg
With the Holidays there were a few less work days to throw at #157.
Picture #1 - Bulkheads tabbed in, mast support beam consisting of three pieces of 5/4 white oak glassed in. Slightly beefier than the beam I put in The Princess.
Picture #2 - Bow sprit glassed on. Again, slightly beefier than The Princess and much stronger as it is well glassed on instead of bolted. We will put on a bob stay though I doubt it will be needed.
Pictures # 3 & 4 - Fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand,fill, sand, fill, sand, fill, sand, etc.
Its looking like primer in a few days.
Very intriguing, a second time.
Can you explain how it's done? Plywood box? Has it got foam in it. No fastenings, how do have the interface between the boat and the extension?
Looks like it could be a fiberglass 'box' which can conceivably be more of a single piece and therefor 'stronger'. Don't believe it could be lighter however.
What's the secret?
Especially as you say, it's strong enuf not to need a bobstay.
Trying to figure out if I can steal your idea for a 3ft OB sprit on the Ariel.
I have a really nice, if I can say so, aluminum tube 'triangular' sprit that would sit on the deck and extend out 3'.
But it weighs 23lbs on its own without bobstay gear,
honkin fasteners and the anchor tray, angle brackets for the two tube deck ends, etc.
I have to have a bowsprit but not at the expense of putting the bow down with all the extra weight for it alone.
Already mounted a fancy bronze bobstay fitting on the bow. Serious I am.
If you rig a bobstay the sprit becomes a compression issue, and gear weight goes up exponentially.
Need a push in the right direction. Thanks!
Last edited by ebb; 01-06-2012 at 05:09 PM.
Ebb,
The sprit on 157 is two pieces of 3/4" and one piece of 1/2" marine plywood bonded together with epoxy. It was then trimmed for a good fit to the hull and epoxied on with chop strand and milled glass filler. It was then tabbed on with heavy roving. She ain't going nowhere, we can lift the boat from it. We will not be reusing the stem fitting this time, we will just cut a slot in the sprit and use a stainless strap bolted through the original holes. I do believe that even if it were three feet long, it or the hull would fail before the joint.
Mike
C227
Decks tuned up and primed with high build primer. Hull sanded, holes filled, outboard well hole filled and faired. Hull primed with high build primer. interior sanded out and ready for paint.
We'll knock down the primer, touch up here and there and be ready for topcoat. We may put off the topcoat until we get the motor in and the cuddy farther along.
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