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    Jib and genoa tracks??

    Is it possible to install one large track to accomadate a jib and a genoa. ? Does anyone have exact locations for this hardware ?
    I currently have a 150 genoa and plan on getting a class size jib. Also has anyone added a second forestay to accomadate a storm jib? If so how and what do you attach it to on the deck?/ I have roller furling and a smaller jib set would be nice . thanks scott 269

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    I have installed a track on the toerail that goes from the after shroud to a point near the rear of the cockpit .
    If you use roller reefing you dont need an extra stay , all roller furling is not suitable for roller reefing or you just remove the genoa from the furling gear and hoist the smaller jib or furl the genny and go on a triple reefed main .

    You could always set a storm jib flying to a pad eye on deck ( which would have to be reinforced )and use the spinaker topping lift as a halyard .

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    The track for the class jib is best located inboard of the toe rail and at an angle approximately in line with the forward window. From the bow, the jib sheets will go outside the first shroud and inside the next two.

    The long outboard track described by Mike is great for 120% on up. Sheets for these sails go outside all the shrouds.

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    Genoa track

    Capt. Mike,how do you like your track mounted on the toe rail?I`m ready to do something there and was thinking of mounting it there.I have the original genoa track and not really happy with it.I have a 165 on a roller fuller,and the track is way too short.
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    It's the only way to go in my book . I use multiple blocks ( 1 as a fairlead to the Lewmars , the other controls sail shape and a snatch block ) and have far better control than before .As you know , we ChesBay sailors rarely need the working jib , a 165 or 180 is more like it . I'm getting a roller reefing/furler and will have the sail marked & cut for 90 , 120 and 165 or up . You loose a little sheeting angle with the small jibs , but you also loose a good source for deck leaks and stubbed toes .

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    jib and genoa tracks

    Thanks everyone for all the help it really is invaluable. I also have a flasher sail ( a flat cut spinnaker) I assume this can also run off of a long track. Will these be at the back of the track and will you use the stock winches etc.?? Also on refinishing my rudder- I have heard conflicting reports on how to do this. Should I epoxy over or do I need to leave spaces for expansion etc..
    Thanks - scott

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    Post Jib Track Location

    Here is the track loation for the working jib:
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    Bill,

    Did you move your tracks? Mine are right below the windows and parallel to the house .

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    This isn't my boat , but the track is in the same place .
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    The track in Mike's photo is the location Pearson used in its original jib setup. Pearson had the sheets coming back to blocks attached to the two eye straps on the coachroof.

    The track location on Maika'i is fixied and is the result of much fleet testing for maximising the drive of the class jib.

    The Genoa track (not on Maika'i) is set out against the toe rail and on some boats extends from just behind the shrouds to midway of the cockpit. Good for anything from a 120% on up.

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    That explains those mysterious holes on my coachroof , thanks for clearing that up .
    Is your class jib cut with a longer leech than the original ?

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    The class jibs are usually cut as deck sweepers (as opposed to the original high clew jibs), but the measurements must remain within the original Pearson specs. The maximum dimensions are:

    Luff 28' 6"
    Foot 10' 4"
    Leach 25' 0"

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    Tracks

    I picked up a genoa from Summerset sails I think it was. Anyway, I was out on Sunday for a Spring run and tried it out. Big wow!
    Seems like 120 or 140. The foot is 16 or there abouts. My question here is. Is the sheet for this suppose to go outside of the standing rigging? seems like it. I have two tracks on Kuan Yin picture attached, I belive the long one is for the Spinnacker...

    With the sheet running to the outside of the rigging and the Sail so large, what about tacking? does it just flop across everything to get to the other side of the boat and the sheet should be long enough to handle it??

    Young inquring minds...
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    oops

    the picutre did not post here it is.

    Hahahhahaha , I just noticed I am listed now as a Pearson Professional!!! haahhaha
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    Genoa sheets go outside all the shrouds. Jib sheets go outside the forward shroud and inside the two remaining shrouds. Yes, the Genoa sheets need to be long enough to follow the sail as it crosses the foredeck. And yes, the sail will hit the shrouds. Remember, here in the Bay Area, on most Spring to Fall days, the 110 will be more than adequate -- In fact, on some days you will want to reef the main because you will be over powered.

    Track #2 in your photo is the original Genoa track. #1 is the original jib track location. See #77's Genoa track location if you are flying 120's up to 160's.

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