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    MILES OF MASKING TAPE

    October is the Fall month in our "coat the teak every six months" program. Six months is just long enough to forget how much effort goes into prepping the area for painting. It still amazes me to see the amount of masking tape it takes, even using newspapers. And after all that, it amazes me how I still manage to get some Cetol on the painted the surfaces

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    Ahhhh, the beauty of Semco Teak Sealer is that if you are very careful you can apply it to teak evey six months with no masking...at least I do anyway. Just don't use the gold shade. It's too orange for my taste. The natural shade looks like new unfinished teak and retains that look until it is time to do a light once over with boat soap and water and an abrasive cloth, let dry for a day and refinish with two coats. I apply it with a cheapo one and 1/2 inch wide brush, and use the brush over again the next time.

    You have to get back to raw wood first to use this stuff for the first time. A two part teak stripper will do that first stripping job. After that you don't need to strip the wood again unless you let the wood totally go by not reapplying the Semco Teak Sealer on a periodic basis. I apply it every six months.

    Washing takes 1/2 hour Applying two coats of Semco Teak Sealer takes one afternoon for coaming boards, hand rails, door and companionway hatch boards, hatch trim and my pin rails. Of course, it doesn't look shiny like varnish or Cetol.

    I have been using this product every six months since 2001: Once in the fall and one in the spring. As of the summer of 2007, I still like the stuff, and I wouldn't think of using anything else. I stripped and applied teak oil to teak decks on another boat for a number of years, and on yet another boat, I dealt with varnishing over and over again. The only place that I use teak oil these days is on the cabin sole. Semco Teak sealer is neaither teak oil, nor varinsh. It doesn't look like Cetol, It's a completey different product. Just use the natural shade.
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    Post VARNISHING ROUTINE

    An old BMW - 110 sailor passed on to me the sage advice that varnishing every six months was the key to success with exterior wood trim. No matter what the product.

    BTW - with Cetol, all you need do is rinse the boat, wipe the teak and let dry before applying

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    vanishing

    I believe it is time for the admiral to post us a photo of his dolled up Ariel!
    How about a 'wet' shot? West Coast rains have arrived and come in big.
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    Ah, the joys of brightwork. This Spring I put on another four coats of varnish while my boat was in the water.

    I can still remember how good it felt just after the final coat was finished and I pulled the tape off.

    Just then the guy in the next slip pulled his boat in and tied up. We chatted for a few minutes, admiring my gleaming handiwork, before I drove home.

    I came back the next day and joy turned to despair. The varnish was all messed up--but only on one half of one side of the boat. I sat there trying to figure out what sort of freak atmospheric disturbance could have caused such a calamity.

    Then it occured to me--my neighbor had hosed down his boat just after I left, splattering water on my wet varnish.

    I can't win.

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    Every Six Months!

    It's that time again Gathered together my paint brushes, old newspapers, 60 yards of masking tape and can of Cetol. Spent the next three days alternately cursing and crying, but the teak is now re coated. Weather was good to great (not too hot - low to upper 70's all three days - and winds were light). Good thing that in six months I will have forgotten all the pain when it's time to re coat the teak, otherwise I might get me some of that SeaBoard stuff

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    6 months - almost that timehere, too. I got some practice-for-pay last week on a boat in the marina, so that was a Good Thing. His was even harder than mine to do - varnish worn to bare old wood on most pieces. Some Oxalic acid for the bare wood, some 100-grit for the still-in-place varnish, a lot of elbow grease, and several curses for the swarming Love Bugs (which find wet varnish to be an irrestistable stimulant on which to do their "thing", apparently...).

    Katie's brightwork was done differently - all taken back down to bare wood, 3 coats of clear epoxy (sanded after the last coat had dried), and then the varnish. They still look great, but I plan to stay ahead of the game and give her a winter coat. What woman can resist a free winter coat?
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    Smile Another 6 Months - Ops, 7

    The six month fun schedule arrived as usual this spring. The weather, however, was not being cooperative and the Bay Area was getting drowned. Two weeks ago, I went to prepare the boat for our first IntraIsland regatta. When I opened the hatch, what to my amazement did I see? Laid out were the Cetol, brushes, masking tape and etc., but I could not remeber doing it

    Slowly my mind recovered and I recalled spending one day at the boat masking and coating the teak around the entrance hatch and then laying out newspapers on which to coat the hatch boards when I returned. Supposed to have been the next day, but I had an allergic reaction to something, went to the Dr and ended up on prednisone, a steroid. Turns out, one of the little know side effects of the stuff is memory loss. People who take prednisone for allergies call it "half"heimers as opposed to "Allz" heimers.

    Oh well. Finally, last Wednesday I began the masking - coating routine and completed it all by Friday (removed the masking tape Saturday), except for the four teak pads under the bow pulpit legs. Of course, things did not go as planned. The rains returned, but I managed to get the coating done early enough that any water mars are not visible from three feet away.

    Only five months until the next fun session . . .

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    I've tried all kinds of masking tape. 2 week tape, 30 day tape, 60 day tape. THEY LIE. Can be a nightmare getting it off.

    Tried electrical tape also. Doesn't stick too well, but comes off easy.

    Might try this stuff next

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderpete
    THEY LIE. Can be a nightmare getting it off. [/url]
    Well, it is better than the "cheap stuff" from Ace Hardware. The "cheap stuff" will come off if you don't leave it on for more than a day, although what gets a lot of sun can be a bit of a trial. What the "cheap stuff" does that the expensive "blue stuff" does not do is to leave a sticky residue. The residue comes off with paint thinner, and in some cases a bit of hard rubbing. This is adding another step, but if your time is "no cost," the "cheap stuff" is really cheap, so a little extra time is not a problem.

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    Question Enquiring minds want to know....

    Quote Originally Posted by epiphany View Post
    ......Katie's brightwork was done differently - all taken back down to bare wood, 3 coats of clear epoxy (sanded after the last coat had dried), and then the varnish......
    How has that held up Kurt?

    I will be breakingout the pig's nostril hair brush myself soon, and wonder about how the epoxy pre-coat thing worked out for you.

    FWIW, I tried it on my winch blocks, but used the wrong thinner for the varnish.. it did not last but I know that was due to operator error.


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    That Time Again . .

    Finally doing the teak coating that was planned for June. Unlike earlier efforts, I'm adopting a new procedure: instead of one coat every six months, now it will be two coats every 12 months. That's the schedule used by the professionals who are coating the teak with Cetole on a friends power cruiser.

    Although two once a year v. one twice a year makes sense, the real reason is to only invest in masking tape once a year instead of twice I remember the pain of masking as soon as I begin the process. A year will better dim the memory . . .

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    Maitai gets a visit

    Admirable Admiral,
    That sounds so good!
    We've had nice days befor the wind gets up.
    Perfect for popping cans and stroking the boat.

    You know that Costco blue tape unrolls pretty easy,
    why not roll it back on again after you've used it
    and put it right back 6 months from now?
    It's all sized right. Saves time. And money.

    But yer happy with that whale oil, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebb View Post
    You know that Costco blue tape unrolls pretty easy,
    why not roll it back on again after you've used it and put it right back 6 months from now? It's all sized right. Saves time. And money.
    Now there's a thought. Might need to number the pieces and create a schematic of locations to be sure I got it right.

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