and that "roll bar" gets ripped out of its attatchment points.I have seen complete travellor tracks ripped out.my point of view is that no matter how much money and equiptment you put on a 25foot 7 inch l.o.d. boat its still a 25 foot 7 inch l.o.d. boat.{an' theezr' darn goodnz' at that} so theres no need goin' overboard (pun not intended)