Ah-HA!! We've flushed some sleepers out This Strong system is starting to look good. I've requested some detailed information on the hardware and some prices for comparison to the other systems offered out there. One question I have regarding the Harken system, and maybe someone here can answere, is do you have to feed the battcars (remember the bat mobile?) onto their bearing retainers/shippers to remove your main? Now that I think about it there must be a pin involved somewhere-I'll have to look at some more pictures. Tony G