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    Not really sure why the lights are mounted the way they are, I think whoever had her in the past did a bit of mod work to her, sadly at the expense of the sink and stove, and he must have liked the look of the lights upright. Overall though I think I got a decent boat, the price was right anyhow $1600 if you count the $600 to ship it from cape cod

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    Very nice find, congratulations. Are you working at home on this or a yard?
    The interior mods look nice.
    Do a search here for Ariel parts posted by Ted Mahavier on this site he has a supply of engine Atomic 4 parts he was looking to get rid of. I have his Email address somewhere if you need to contact him.
    Good Luck Carl


    just found Em address: ted.mahavier (at) gmail.com
    Last edited by carl291; 04-30-2009 at 12:58 PM. Reason: update

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    she is sitting in a boat yard atm, the plan is to do the minimum necessary to get her in the water, and then well learn to sail, this is my first sailboat, so I want to make sure this is something I want to do, before I get to carried away. Pretty much I am going to fix the deck, throw a 6hp nissan or tahatsu on the back, and get to sailing. Im sure I will be working on 1001 little projects all summer long though. As for the atomic 4, Im really not sure what Im going to do with it. I definantly have the skill to rebuild it, but Im not really sure its worth the effort. I dont have a garage any more, so it would be a problem finding some were to work on it. I may just yank it out and use the outboard or repower her with a diesle in the future.

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    Love the chart table and steps! Congrats! Nice to have another Ariel in the neighborhood.
    Mike
    Totoro (Sea Sprite 23 #626)

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    A-322 is looking good! I'm get the idea that she'll be well taken care of... Don't worry too much about this being your first sailboat - the way these boats sail - you'll be hooked soon enough! It does not hurt to plan ahead...

    Regarding the motor; It seems like you're headed towards repowering with an inboard diesel... If you do not have tides & currents to worry about; I'd say pull the seized A-4 out and use a small outboard (2-3 hp) to get you by. (You can always add some ballast to trim as needed) This will get you out in the water and you can look around to see what options are available. (e.g - if any other motors have similar mounts) in the meantime.

    Refurbished A4s come up for sale ocasionally...

    Oh - the bulbs are 12v. At least in most A/Cs I've run into.

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    7hp Farymann Diesel Marine Engine 18W + 2:1 trans NOS

    Try looking at this link for a small diesel eng/trans combo, the price seems right, has a built in alternator, I don't know if I like that.
    I'm sure the light bulbs are 12 volt, any RV store will sell them.
    I would pull the A-4 on the hard, unless your plan is to deep six it in the ocean and call it a man made reef
    Maybe this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    I'd say pull the seized A-4 out and use a small outboard (2-3 hp) to get you by. (You can always add some ballast to trim as needed).
    Good idea, in theory, but unfortunately I have some nasty currents to fight against. The current under the bridge near my mooring is one of the strongest tidal currents in the world. I'm not sure even the a4 running 100% could get me though there with out waiting for the tides to change, guess I will have to just give it a shot. I was thinking of getting one of the nissan/tahatsu 6hp engines. They seem to be the best power to weight, and they arnt too expensive.

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    Surely the best testimonialed small diesel is the BETA.
    It is also red.

    It is a marinized Kubota tractor engine. Out of Britain, it's expensive.
    Haven't heard of any Ariels having one installed. I know Admiral Bill wants to convert from OB.

    Why not be the guniapig and show us how to do it?

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    I very well may be the guinea pig for this one, the idea of a kabota tractor engine sounds pretty appealing. Any how, the old A4 is now sitting on a plastic crate in the middle of the floor. My God those engines are heavy! I could hardly lift it the 2 foot off the floor to get it up on the crate. Now I just need to some how get it out of the boat. Who ever built that chart table in my boat has my gratitude, It lifts up and the right side of the stair supports lifts out as well, so pretty much it gives you access to the whole space between the bunks, it made it very easy to get the engine out of there, well except the having to crawl through the cockpit locker to get to the prop shaft. Anyhow, would it be ok to leave the prop shaft as it is? Im a bit concerned that with out the support of the transmission it may slide and cause a leak. Anyhow, I forgot my camera, but I will bring it tomorrow and take lots of pics. When I was climbing around back behind the engine, I noticed that some one glassed the hull to deck seam. looks like they did a good job too.
    Last edited by Fox; 05-07-2009 at 07:11 PM.

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    Deck to hull HAD to be glassed by Pearson with sumthung.

    Little Gull's seams had strips of plain matt, and not very much of it, pasting the boat together.
    When cleaning silicon out of the seam covered by the stainless molding with a Dremel tool, it seemed much TOO EASY to cut thru the bandaide.

    The inside was covered everywhere with paint, even up into the cove - because I remember how hard is was scraping and handsanding in there.

    It may be a clue to check to see if indeed a former owner tackled this job. There are plenty of areas, like the cockpit lockers, where it's normally impossible to reach the cove (the inside of the toerail.) Forepeak might be another and of course the stern locker.

    There have been some novel remedies to the seam problem.
    Last edited by ebb; 05-08-2009 at 04:34 AM.

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    the second is of the wood I found under the horrid grey patina on the cockpit boards.

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    it should look really good with the penatrating oil finish I plan on using, and lastly, here is a picture of 322's future mooring. I got it so rough...... Oh yeh almost forgot, I ordered a tahatsu 6 hp sail-pro from onlineoutboards.com should be here on thursday. I know i could have used the regular long shaft, but seeing how the sail pro comes with a built in alternator and a high thrust prop, It seemed like a good deal.
    Last edited by Fox; 05-18-2009 at 07:16 PM.

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    Nice work on her, those coamings look to be in great shape. Those coaming blocks are in great shape compared to what mine was like when I got her.

    After a quick look around, I've come to the conclusion that none of the coaming blocks are the same on any Ariel (or Triton for that matter) that I've seen. I would have thought they'd cut them out in runs to speed production, but by the subtle variety of shapes, it looks as though they were individually crafted.

    Ken.

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    yep, you got it right, I was not sure what to call them.

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