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    is there an alternative to Ariel coamings as we know them?

    Hey Tony.
    The coaming breakwater whatjermacallits:
    Doing it the old way:
    After you glued up the requisite block of Mahogany 8/4 pieces,
    you could cut the tapers and the rabbit out with the table saw.
    Or be easier to bandsaw the tapers (two cuts) then cut the rabbit out on the table saw, no vacuum bagging. Could jackplane the big round corner, no problem.

    I just saw a 24 footer by TedBrewer. It seemed inspired by Alberg. Had a lazarette behind the cockpit. Had the same LOW varnished coamings that you can't lean against
    and can't sit on, if the boat is on 'er ear. Or just see better forward around the cabin.

    I've been threatening taller backrest coamings on Little Gull - which would mean taller breakwaters in the front off the cabin. Like maybe 16"! They would be big triangular baulks of wood. The coamings are definitely Ariel trademark (even more so: Commander) and a good simple piece of glorious varnished teak or mahogany that really dolls up the ship. A real tall coaming might NOT look so good, though. And water volume could increase dramatically.

    Reason says it would be possible to raise the coamings a bit, have winch islands, have stowage compartments, even make the coaming SITTABLE... with an added cap rail. That's what I'm aiming at.


    It's a quandry - I worried about it - just can't give up the satisfation of that mahogany furniture. And I don't know if I want to give up that elegant RUN of coaming by breaking the eye with glass winch islands. They could be painted wood color. Tacky.
    I've tried to imagine the winch island laminated with mahogany veneer showing on the outside. Capped with a piece of 3/4, who would know?? What do you think? Can it be done?
    The winch island also could be extended along the coaming to make sometime sitting always possible.

    And, now I'm thinking, looking at the coaming standoff models you got there that the same thing could be done with them. Fiberglass with wood veneer. Especially with that vacuum bag process. Wonder if it could be done one shot or have to bag the veneer on separately.

    Gotta see your vacuum bag process in action!
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    The alternative:
    Why not do the whole stretch of the coaming, all together....? The coaming COULD be 5" or 6" across,
    a narrow hollow fiberglass box,
    would incorporate the winches anywhere on top without the bumpouts (islands) Could be easy to face with mahogany. Even on BOTH sides..... The standoff/return/breakwaters at the front might have to be separate pieces. But we expect that break there. Sit anywhere on them! There wouldn't be much stowage capacity unless it was heightened some. The seatback inside the cockpit could be a open mahogany grid like the galley has for bowls and cups.
    Anyway, just a thought.
    Try to get the small of the back supported. But try to keep the Alberg/Pearson proportions of cabin to coamings. It'd be epoxied in, wouldn't leak! The stow compartments self draining. Think of the extra cockpit stowage. But we'd lose the side decks. Would that really be so bad?

    Add for a backrest some tube rail at the right height that could be padded.
    And could be grabbed once in awhile if you ever lost yer balance.
    Be great to have them in rough weather.
    And offshore they could have sunbrella panels and be incorporated into the spray dodger.
    The panels themselves might make a comfortable backrest too!

    If we were more comfortable
    would we'd spend more time sailing
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    Last edited by ebb; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

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