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    kites and kellets

    I'll leave that kite cam stuff up to you guys.

    BUT
    If I ever have the time - HAH - I'd put it into developing a kellet cam.
    The idea is to send a camera or corder down the anchor line to see how well the anchor is set. Good idea?

    First models would be relatively simple and probably be limited in depth. Upgrades might include infrared or remote wider angled views of the bottom and stuff like that.

    Every cruiser will want one of those.
    Think it's a marketable idea. Have to cut costs so it would be affordable. Probably available already.
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    ebb... two words, otter box. These waterproof boxes would do the trick with just about any conventional camcorder. Just send it down, and then pull it up and check the footage.

    Just a thought.
    Jack

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    Jack,
    The estate here acquired a battery-powered game camera. It's a Pelican case that has been altered to hold a digital camera, an infra red light, and a motion detector. Like rafting boxes and survival, law enforcement cases it's made from bulletproof polypropylene. Very nicely molded, thoughtfully designed. It's weatherproof I'd guess, as the box contains sensitive electronics, but it's not really designed for in water use.

    There are some camera cases that will go to some depths - don't know which ones they are - most of these Fuerte and Hardigg cases are only good for three feet immersion. I mean as I understand it.

    For a camera you could lower I might start first models with PVC pipe that could be screwed together just to see what came up. Lens, gaskets, machining... Don't know how you'd control the camera on an anchor rode and/or chain. You'd need self contained light for sure, you'd need weight to get it down, you'd need a non-focus digital camera that had excellent detail. The game camera has a 100ft useful range with a 40degree angle of field. How you make something that you want to take apart simply waterproof at 50 feet say is the challenge.

    Another approach would be to use the anchor's retrieval line/buoy to lower the camera rather than the rode. A straight down looksee might be easier to acheive than a side view..

    Anyway there is a lot of expertise available for inspiration. It would be nice just to see if something would work, then perfect it, then see whose patent you're infringing.

    If it was just a cool jig that could assembled by anyone, that would be even better.
    [One tube is your light
    Another tube holds the camera
    This tube has lead in it.
    Bundle them up with some hose clamps
    and toss it in the drink.}
    Last edited by ebb; 10-25-2007 at 07:19 PM.

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    Great ideas.

    Another idea I had (although it is a little more out there) would be to design a ROV on the cheap. Hook up some kind of camera to a remote control submarine model and send that down to inspect.

    I think this would fail the cost effectiveness test for individual owners, but might be something worth offering as a service to boat owners. Who knows, maybe I can rig something and use it to save up for a Commander?
    Jack

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    I'm afraid the technology is already there

    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/searc...h&k=underwater

    How 'bout those pics of the Dawg?

    The Arielites are going to need to step up
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    Thanks Pete. Lucky Dawg makes an elegant screen saver for my desktop.

    Started to post this in Che's thread, but I didn't want to highjack...

    Comparatively (re his sailing description http://pearsonariel.org/discussion/s...1&postcount=90), I tried to sail Lucky Dawg to her winter storage in Grand Haven 12 miles south on Lake Michigan yesterday - and 8-10 footers (marine forecast was for 4-7) with 22 knots of wind chased me back. I only got 50 yards past the pier head - gunning the engine at full speed into the westerly winds to get into the lake. Drove out and checked conditions for today - presently nice but a gale warning has been posted since earlier when I went to check - the waves are supposed to build big. (See http://www.surfgrandhaven.com for 4 rotating live views) I stopped in at the Muskegon Coast Guard Station to see if they had better prospective wave height information - seeking a window for the trip down the shore this afternoon. In speaking to the post commander, I said I had tried to sail out yesterday and he said "WAS THAT YOU!?! Man, I want to shake your hand." I think it was a friendly way of calling me an idiot. LD never dipped her bow or stern under any waves and I felt secure with her under me, but the seas were abeam and pretty steep. (Must admit I felt a little scared *after* the fact...) I surfed at 10.2 knots on a broad reach coming back into the channel! Re sailing today, the commander said "I'm not going to tell you what to do, but we sent our 49 footer up the river this morning..." Will try again on Monday.

    Yesterday, I took Stephan's comment re C-257's bridge deck into account and bungied two hatch boards in place to ward off any cockpit-invading waves flooding my cabin.

    I want to take a heavy weather sailing class somewhere... LD is much more competent in these conditions than I am.

    Che, you are a stud.

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    Sounds like you're well on the way Kyle.

    If you sign up for Netflix, they have a number of sailing DVDs. There is a 5 disc set of the Annapolis Book of Seamanship. One disc is on heavy weather.

    There is another disc called "Sailing in Heavy Weather" that was pretty good.

    I've watched all of the boating videos on Netflix. Most of them are really bad, truly awful. But, it's something to do over the Winter

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