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    Mystery Foam

    Here are some photos of a couple mysteries I found on A-24. If anyone has any info regarding the "foam " that appears to be literally busting out of things I would appreciate it. Enlightenment please.





    I didn't check the date on the newspaper, but I will once I see the boat again this week. If it says "1962" then some of my questions will be answered.
    Last edited by Tim Mertinooke; 02-20-2007 at 03:50 PM.

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    Mystery foam??...

    Hi Tim,
    I wonder if someone was trying to stop a leak?? I wish you the very best of luck and many congratulations on your purchase!!
    Joe
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    "There is NOTHING--absolute nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."

    or something like that
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    Made the hour drive to check out the boat a couple days ago when the temps were below zero. I must say that the more time I spend poking around this thing the more I love it. It strikes a perfect balance for my intended use...can't wait until summer. The bulge in the keel had some ice protruding out of it. I think the water expansion idea was correct. Does anyone know if the void in the aft part of the keel prone to water intrusion is open to the space between the hull and the lead ballast or is the lead ballast completely sealed from the void? I'm just trying to track the direction the water traveled to get a better idea of the what the abyss of my keel looks like. My plan is to add a plug at the bottom just in front of the shoe to drain the water that may collect every season. If it is all open down there, then the water that finds its way between the lead and the hull should drain from the plug aft of it assuming the boat is tilted back a tad. I think anyway...

    I also picked away at the laminate covering the rudder shoe. It came off pretty easy with a screwdriver. There seemed to be a greenish grey fairing compound that was pretty well saturated covered by one layer of fiberglass which does seem to be non-factory as Ebb noted earlier. The shoe has a reddish caulk between it and the hull that was easy to peel out by hand. The shoe seemed just fine, no cracks, thin spots or corrosion that I could see and it is well attached to the hull with no play. The area did seem wet though with some evidence of water leaking out a little between the hull and the shoe where the ineffective caulk resided. The hull laminate was fine where the shoe was attached and didn't seem saturated. It's exposed to the air now so it should start to dry with the warmer weather coming, then I will assess what the next step with that will be. I wish the foot of snow we still have in the yard will just go away already.
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    Tim

    "is the lead ballast completely sealed from the void?"

    in answer to your question, no...

    I opened up the keel on A-231 from the rudder shoe all the way to the ballast. no evidence that the lead was " encapsulated" from the void. Construction shown in some vintage factory photos shows the hull molded in one piece and the lead dropped in from above. (see photo, the shot is from below looking forward - the gray object is the ballast, on the face of the ballast nearest the camera is the foam stuck to the lead)

    Different story on the first three years of the Pearson Triton the early boats have the void added on after the hull was out of the mold.

    there were three sources of water intrusion into my keel... leaks around the rudder shoe, holes in the bilge from previous owners attempt to install a bilge pump and incomplete wet-out of the fiberglass at the forward most part of the bilge (under the deck in the v-berth).

    cheers,
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    Last edited by bill@ariel231; 03-12-2007 at 05:55 AM.

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    Here I was fretting about what might be a 4" diameter hole in the side of my keel once grinding is complete and you show me a keel without a bottom. Misery loves company. Anyone who owns one of these beauties certainly likes working on boats. Everyone seems to have a drastic demolition somewhere in their history with these vessels. Thanks for the picture, it certainly answered my question.

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    a ballast question

    If there is all that room around the lead, especially, below it, what in the world is holding that huge lead casting in place??

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