We wanted to find out why our jib lead is on top of the cabin. Anyone out there know why?...When the jib lead is on top of the cabin, it cannot directly lead to the winch on the coaming board. Instead, it over-rides! Is anyone out there using the original set-up? If so, how are they implementing it? Or does eveyone simply mount their tracks on the deck?
Two curious sailors, Anthony & Sabrina
Do you have one on each side? Perhaps that lead is for your working or storm jib? Just a guess. I had thought my setup was stock... except for all the hardware mounted on the cabin top, that is.
Last edited by mbd; 10-11-2005 at 02:13 PM.
Mike
Totoro (Sea Sprite 23 #626)
On Commander #105 we run from the cabintop to the winch with no problem, Have you moved your winches or the track?
Last edited by Mike Goodwin; 10-11-2005 at 03:07 PM.
The factory placed the jib leads on the cabin top because of the high clew head sails then in use. Later, owners have generally placed the leads on the deck using track. See the many photos on this subject . . .Originally Posted by Anthony/Bina
Thank you everyone for addressing our concerns.
I guess I did not state my question clearly though. Our real concern is when the fairlead leads the line down to the wench, there is a lot of over-ride. So, because of this, we are using the wench that we ourselves have placed on the cabintop (even though truly we need this wench for other running rigging). So, the problem is not from the sail to the fairlead, but from the fairlead to the wench. Why would the factory install a set-up like this with the wench and fairlead and how do we fix it?
Thank you, Commander #155
Well, what do I know. You have the jib sheet, the mainsheet, and the genakker sheet for running rigging. You don't have the main on your cabin top. Whatever foresail you have in use you have it wrapped around the winch and either selftailed or held to a cleat of some sort, and those winches are usually on your cockpit coamings.
On San Francisco Bay you better have big winches on your coamings or you will loose jib control.
If you are talking about the halyards, vang, reefing lines if led aft, cunningham etc on the cabin top, they are usually led thru line controlers near and in front of a smaller winch on the cabin they all share - on the port side and/or the starboard side at the end of the cockpit by the companionway.
Line controlers or clutches are (in my limited experience) fairleads that clamp the line, holding the line from going back from where you pulled it, but will allow you to pull it toward you by hand or on the winch even if the clamp is closed. A wonderful feature. Each unused line is held tightly in the controler. Or a single line can be left loose if you so desire. You can release the clamp on a single line to let the line move freely.
Don't understand how jib sheets could be led over the cabin top, even on a Commander?
Last edited by ebb; 10-21-2005 at 04:40 PM.
Ebb, Look at post #3 and you can see the jib sheet on the Stbd side going through a block on the cabintop on it's way to the winch on the coaming .
I don't see ( without pictures ) why he is having a problem , if it works on one boat , it should work on all unless someone has moved the winches or tracks .
BTW Anthony , wenches are the babes in bikinis that pull on the sheets for you , just ask Commander Pete.
IMHO, that track belongs on the deck, not on the cabin top. Of course, I guess it works if you have a very high clew headsail.
I agree, I like the tracks on the rail , fewer broken toes that way !
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