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    Quote Originally Posted by mbd
    .... I'll have to hit the "search" button.
    Take a look at post #60 at: http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussi...5&page=4&pp=15

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    Mike

    it's a trade-off what holes to spend time and effort sealing up... three holes on each of the side decks or... 9 holes on each side of the hull....

    I need to make the same choice next year.

    bill

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    Bill, as posted in another thread, looks like I'm going with the 'stock' setup (though a bit beefier) for the chainplates - though I do really like the idea of the externals, the path of least resistance wins out. Guess I'll just have to wait for you, Ebb, TonyG to do it to see another installation besides Geoff's.

    http://pearsonariel.org/discussion/s...9&postcount=57

    http://pearsonariel.org/discussion/s...8&postcount=35
    Last edited by mbd; 09-26-2006 at 10:42 AM.
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    New Aft Chainplate

    Progress is slow on the recore job, but things are getting done. In the meantime, here's the old chainplate (it was flattened out to make the new one), and the new - one after I made the opening on the taff rail larger...
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    Dry fitting the new core

    I'm very pleased with the CoreCell. I got the 9mm thick stuff. It's easy to work with and just the right thickness. Here it is dry fit on the starboard side deck.
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    Here's the ground out deck, including the hole through the lower skin.
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    Here is the deck with thickened epoxy spread over the hole and stuffed all around the edges where I dug out the balsa core.
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    New Core Installed

    And finally, the new core in place and weighted down. First, I wet out the lower skin and applied three fiberglass cloth patches to holes and thin spots, then spread thickened epoxy all over the bottom of the corecell pieces, mashed 'em down, wet out the undersides of the cut out deck pieces, spread thickened epoxy over the tops of the corecell pieces, then pressed everything in place, wiped off the squeezed out epoxy, laid down wax paper and put on the weights.

    Next will be more grinding and scarf joints. Maybe 1/3 done. Then I'll have to make everything pretty again - grinding, fairing, grinding, painting...
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    Why does no one vacuum bag? You could put around 12 Psi or 1700 Pounds per square foot or al most 7000 lbs of pressure on that little patch you had there. Just need some bag, mastic, breather, & pref, coupled to a vacuum pump of a venturi deal, or in a pinch an onld refer compressor, or any compressor.

    Sure think it beats bricks, and jugs.
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    Mike's 414 recore

    Mike,
    You sure do make your recore project look and sound easy! And neat. You do good work!

    I hope you will take time to write a recap to help first timers feel empowered to do it also. Talking about power, it's a fantastic thing to do for the ole gal. Adding years, decades to the life of our fine little boats.

    Hints, that first cut, tools you used, materials, and amounts of materials if you kept a record. Any problems, tips, what would you do different next time.

    You know, because somebody right now is going to be inspired by what you've accomplished.
    Last edited by ebb; 08-09-2006 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tha3rdman
    Why does no one vacuum bag? ... Just need some bag, mastic, breather, & pref, coupled to a vacuum pump of a venturi deal, or in a pinch an onld refer compressor, or any compressor.
    Let's do a little "got it" test:

    some bag - got it? no.
    mastic - got it? no.
    breather - got it? no.
    & pref - got it? no.
    a vacuum pump of a venturi deal - got it? no.
    an onld refer compressor - got it? no.
    or any compressor - got it? no.
    bricks - got it? yes.
    milk jugs - got it? yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tha3rdman
    Sure think it beats bricks, and jugs.
    Perhaps, but my bricks and jugs are paid for and they work.
    Last edited by mbd; 08-09-2006 at 04:30 PM.
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    Thanks Ebb! What is truly empowering is the encouragement and knowledge from the good folks on the forum here and other ether places. This is truly an "if I can do it, anyone can" sort of job. Not fun, but not too terribly difficult either. But, I'm still far from done - and still recovering from that "first cut"...
    Last edited by mbd; 08-09-2006 at 04:29 PM.
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    Got it! or I get it rather.

    BTW: how much does the corecell run a sheet?

    Quote Originally Posted by ebb
    You know, because somebody right now is going to be inspired by what you've accomplished.
    Or dreading this winter when they cut into their own . . .
    Last edited by tha3rdman; 08-09-2006 at 03:21 PM.
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    Oh 3rdman... Will I post this before our omnipresent moderator Bill does?

    "If you use the 'search' button at the top of the page"...

    I got it from Noah's Marine. Here's the link from the Deck Delamination / Core Problems thread.

    PS. At the rate I'm going, you'll finish before I do.
    Last edited by mbd; 08-09-2006 at 04:28 PM.
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    Weights Removed

    I just took this after removing the weights and right before spilling my beer. I hate this tarp.

    I do wish more expoxy had oozed out of the seams though. Oh well, I'll have some more chances with the port and fore decks...
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