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  1. #151
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    I assumed it was done by a PO. Does Periwinkle have them too?
    Mike
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    The latest pictures of Sea Glass may motivate some manufacturer to start producing these beauties again. Does anyone know if the mold still exists?
    MRH

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    On the Lazarette subject:
    My lazarette bulkhead has a couple small holes related to plumbing and electrics. I was going to guess that's a previous owner's alteration to A-414. It probably helps lighten the stern a bit. Wouldn't be a good idea for the outboard folks.

    On the "why don't we start production" subject:
    With the exception of the Ensign, the 60's vintage pearson molds are gone (although a new mold could be pulled off a vintage hull). The Ensign is still in limited production by Ensign Spars.

    there are other options for surviving molds for close cousins (Cape Dory relatives)...
    CD25D & CD26 (Triangle Marine in R.I. owned by a current Pearson Triton Owner & Restoration guru)
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    Mike, your yacht is something else! Can't wait to see it put back together.

    If some manufacturer would start making them again, that new Ariel / Commander would fetch a pretty penny. Any guess-timates? $35-40k?
    Kyle
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    Thanks Kyle! I'm hoping to make it up to Tim's next week to help him reinstall the dead lights and whatever else I can manage. I'm really really looking forward to seeing things put back together too! I can't wait to get sailing again. It was a long Summer last year...
    Mike
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    Nice, and Motovating! #97 Just got pulled into the paint booth today, tommorrow everything should be preped fror primer on monday, I like the cream nonskid though the "great one" says it must be gray, she doesnt like the sand look.
    #97 "Absum!"

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    A side note (i didn't want it to get lost in the previous post) That stripe (cove stripe?) along the top of the topsides, what is that design from?
    #97 "Absum!"

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    It a gold vinyl stripe from the previous-PO. I'm afraid that's all I can tell you, but I do like it - a lot. Breaks up the topsides and accents the shear nicely...

    So gray non-skid? Cool! That's a nice look too. Sure is nice to see the pretty stuff go on!
    Last edited by mbd; 05-19-2007 at 07:43 PM.
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    FYI. West M has a range of widths in vinyl striping tapes: Seafit.
    There is Mylar metalic gold stripe tape by MDR from other catalogs but it comes in 3/4" only. $9 for 50'. Can't find other widths. Mylar would outlast vinyl, imco, depending on the adhesive too.

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    Mike -

    Like Frank, both hands are up, and whatever color 'jealous' is, I am officially colored that shade, in a deep hue.

    She's lookin' great!
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    Mike, you could always rout a real cove into the hull. I was going to do that when I redid Dasein, but time got short so I didn't get to it. The plan was to screw a batten to the hull as a guide for a hand-held router with a (duh ) cove bit.
    Last edited by dasein668; 05-23-2007 at 06:05 AM. Reason: typo!
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    That's not a bad idea, then you could just paint it. But I've got a myriad of other projects that would take priority over routing a cove stripe - like copying your toe rails and cabin sole, not to mention the topsides...
    Mike
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    routed cove - watch it!

    Befor you rout a cove into the topside of your Ariel or Commander make damn sure you are not creating a zipper that will separate your top from the bottom again!

    338 has about 3/16" thickness near the seam with about 1/8" at the seam.
    I urge you to drill some holes to measure actual thickness along the proposed track of your cove befor you take a router to it.

    There is no doubt that an incised cove line with real gold leaf in it has way more class than any vinyl stripe.

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    Good point. Dasein has a solid 1/2 inch or more at that location. And a routed cove doesn't need to be very deep. You just need the right bit.
    Nathan
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    rout cove

    If you're thinking about this classy style of coving, you have a variety of corebox bits to choose from. Depending on the width of the cove, it's obvious that the wider the bit the shallower the radius in the rout. So as dasein668 sez, you don't have to go deep to get a nice effect.

    I wonder what is the best width for a cove stripe? Anybody know? It could be too narrow, or too wide for that matter....?


    And what the hell is a corebox? Isn't it a 'coving' bit?
    Last edited by ebb; 05-23-2007 at 08:44 AM.

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