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We have supplied the same two extrusions for both boats. The only difference is the length of the "smaller" one used for the forward hatch. (Commander's is longer, so Ariel owners will end up with more selvage.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander 147
Prior to today I had avoided removing the rubber from the forward hatch because I wanted to be sure I could replace it with the correct stuff before I took it off. But after your reply Bill I went out and pulled the gasket off the forward hatch and did a good comparison to the material I had previously removed for the lazarette to see if they were in fact the same or not. Here is a picture of both pieces and they do appear to be the same.
I have to wonder if Pearson made a change somewhere along the way??????????
I think your boat was one they were finishing on a Friday. :) To me, it appears that they used the fwd hatch weatherstripping for the lazarette hatch as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander 147
Speaking of the lazarette hatch weatherstripping, the mfg shipped a test roll of it that arrived today. It is not the same extrusion as we used before. I've mailed them a sample that I cut from the weatherstripping on my boat to see if they can find the proper extrusion (that we paid for).
Meanwhile, I'm taking a length of their test extrusion to the boat to see if it will fit. However, the distance between the "legs" appears to be too wide for a snug fit, and the "bead" at the top is thin walled like the fwd hatch weatherstripping bead -- and needs to support a lot more weight.
You might be right Bill, the Friday before a long weekend probably. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
It seems like Pearson made a lot of changes along the way like foam filled and glassed over keel versus later boats that had clean empty keels. Or bridge deck versus no bridge deck. It's almost like they started each week on Monday morning with a meeting to decide what changes they were going to make that week. I'm just glad they made enough of them that I get to enjoy one.:)
The mfg has the shape of the correct extrusion and is beginning the process. Hopefully, we get delivery early next week . . .
Finally, the second extrusion has arrived :) The postage pricing trip to the post office was certainly enlightening. Seems the, "If it fits, it ships" Priority Mail box is less expensive than the "cheaper" alternatives! If the weatherstripping was lighter, or would just fit in a flat envelope . . .
We're boxing "kits" of weatherstripping in anticipation of the expected orders. Each box will contain a ten foot length of the extrusion for the lazarette, and a seven foot length of the the extrusion for the forward hatch. This is enough to fit the A-C yachts, and maybe even Triton's or Vanguards, given that the 7 & 10 foot lengths of weatherstripping are about six inches longer than necessary. FYI - We do have selvedge pieces that can be used for patching if the Triton's or Vanguards need longer lengths of weatherstripping.
An order form with pricing and mailing information should appear shortly on the home page. You will find it under a new plank titled "Weatherstripping -- get it now," or something like that.
Weatherstripping order form is now available. You may need to "refresh" the ACYA home page to see the change . . .
My forms are filled out and printed for two sets of weather stripping and one rudder post bearing and the check is written and all of it is in an envelope for tomorrow's mail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
Thanks Bill this really is the only reasonably priced place to find these most important parts. All of your efforts are very much appreciated.
I got the new weatherstripping today and the new rudder shaft bearing also. The material for the laz is not the same as what Pearson originally installed on Destiny but then we have already had that conversation and this stuff will work just fine. Actually I think this will provide more support and crush less than what was there.
Thanks again Bill for making this happen for us all.
I received the gasket set last week and feel very appreciative for the effort made to make these available. I would like to know what the present consensus is as to the best adhesive to use to attach them.
Thanks again,
Marcelo
A-407
Adhesive for the weatherstripping? Here is what one of our members recommended several years ago:
"3M’s Super Weatherstrip Adhesive, otherwise known as "gorilla snot." Nasty, gooey, yellow stuff . . . very permanent. Get it at any auto body supply house and many parts stores...accept no substitutes. Dave "
OK, so has anyone used gorilla snot to put new rubber gasket in place? Your supposed to apply it to both surfaces and hold them apart until tacky. I'm here to tell you with this gasket that is not easy to do. I just did the laz gasket and it was a real pain. And I'm not sure the job I did is going to be up to my normal standards. I'll check the job in the morning to see if it will do or not.
I'm open to suggestions for technique to accomplish this job!
Sounds like a type of contact cement. Haven't met this Gorilla.
But why not slather both surfaces and partially aired while you apply the stuff
- but still wet - slide it together.
If the recommended cleanup is with mineral spirits,
maybe press any excess out with fingers or laminate roller and clean up quick with dampened rag.
The exposed interface will set and grab the gasket.
It'll maybe stay wet inside for who knows how long, but not long, and eventually will set.
With contact cements imco the wait time is to let the solvents out
so that there is no problem with pockets of gas when assembling.
The rubber gasket is way more forgiving than plastic laminate sheet and shouldn't create a problem.
The bit of 'breathing' you get with the time it takes to assemble it together imco will get the glue to set.
Just guessing.
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Hi ebb
So that is pretty much what I did. And after checking it this morning it does appear to be firmly attached so all may be well.
Gorilla Snot is the AKA name I got from Bill's post below in this thread. It is the 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive. I found it at my local auto parts store.
I ended up masking off below the gasket prior to application and was very happy I did. The squeeze out and smears were contained with the masking tape so the job looks good.