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You might try these guys out of Florida:
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I think they are the outfit I used to make a self tending jib for my 470.
All their inventory is listed by dimensions, price, and condition.
There are other used sail operations online too, just google "used sails".
Your should be able to figure out your critical dimensions easily enough. Also need to think about the fastening system (slugs, etc.)
Went to see Allen today, picked up a 4 step swing boarding ladder, 4 Danforth anchors 2 branded 2 spin offs,(12-16lb) a nice pair of coamings for an Electra, a small solar panel, 2 Perko main battery control switches,a 10 gal plastic water tank, a WC winch handle,a folding settee table, a handful of snap shackles, a pulpit with a nav light and six stanchons, a Victor Slocum book about his Dad, a hauser pipe for an anchor line, 6 dock fenders,3 new life jackets and a like new 150 genoa for.... $210, I got robbed, LOL. His sail inventory is no where near 300, more like 30 + from what I saw , I'm going back to measure what he has and buy spare sails for the Electras and the Ariel.
Sadly when I asked about sails for your boat he said if you wanted to come see him he would work with you but he has wasted too much time on trying to sell sails over the phone only to have the people back out after he has done all the foot work. If you can post some measurements I'll be back up there in about 3 weeks to measure what he has and hunt what you need if you can wait that long.
Nice haul! I would kill for a consignment shop like that around here. Wow...
Hey Carl, that's probably why when I left a message he didn't return my phone call, bad memories I guess. Thanks for checking up for me though!
The measurements I have are:
Jib:
Distance from base of mast to masthead = 29' 9"
Distance from centre of mast to forestay pin attachment = 9' 10"
So my guess in terms of a jib would be:
Luff = 29' max
Foot = 9' max - don't want to fly a geneoa just due to it being a non-standard mast and my spreaders are lower than on the original pearson so I'm not sure if they'd get in the way or not.
Main:
Distance of the boom is approximately 11 feet (I'll get more accurate measurements tonight).
Distance from where boom approximately attaches (although this can be adjusted) to the top of mast is 27' 3"
So my guess in terms of the sail dimensions would be:
Luff - 27' (based on the boom sitting up approximately 30 inches from the base of the mast and the overall mast height excluding mast head being 29' 9"). So if its shorter, probably better.
Foot - 11' I would say 10' to be on the safe side.
I may have to end up cutting the boom down as just thinking about it now I'm not sure if it will get in the way of the backstay. Based on that, to be safe I would say:
Luff - 25'
Foot - 9'
Freena - thanks for the reference - I'm waiting to hear back from them. Right now they don't have any used sails in stock based on my measurements, all of them are new. I actually found another good place called secondwindsails and based on my measurements and talking to the guy it looks like I could get a main and jib for 450 excluding shipping which I'd be more than happy to pay. He's just checking some things for me right now. Although based on Carl's haul I'm tempted to fly to the states just to talk to the guy, that's incredible....
Try calling after 5:00 Pm , he has a daytime job, weekends are the best time . Before I'd pay $450 for two sails used I'd wait for me to get back up there unless your totally rigged and ready to sail.I know I can beat that price by a huge margin. If I remember all that he said the sails are off a US Yachts 27, a Cal 25 various Hunters, Pearsons ,Catalinas all in the 23-29 ft range so surely he has something that will work. They are all off fresh water boats. Generally these are boats that get hauled out at the end of the season, set on the hard for a year or more and then the owners are shocked to find out they their boat has filled with rainwater and ruined. All the boats are keel less because that's the first thing he cuts off and sells for scrap. Then we vultures hone in on the prey.Check if he has a furling setup for the headsail you have. Good Luck
That would be awesome Carl - thanks for checking for me. I'll give him a try this weekend and see if he'll be willing to work with me. Would love to save as much cash as possible!
I may be headed up there this weekend , looks like I'll be home this weekend which is a surprise, so I'll hunt your size and set aside. He is trying to get me to buy the entire lot but I may just get what I can use and pick up what you need if you can trust me to judge the condition and price for you. let me know . Carl
That would be incredible. If you set it aside this weekend let me know and I can call him up give him my payment information and get him to mail it to me. Let me know your address so I can send you a case of beer for all your help (maybe a years supply!)
I am leaving now for Allen's I'll post back if I find sails that will work for you. I told him about the two sails you mentioned for $450 plus shipping, He said he could beat that price, I guess so, since he doesn't have a used sail over $100.
Hi Carl, my apologies, been swamped at work and had to work late in to the nights on Friday and Saturday (and likely today). I'm sure this is too late but name is Andrew White, reefing points aren't a mandatory, let me know how I can get the money to ya if you end up finding something. My phone number is 44uno-5ive32-04nin4.
This is long-distance for ya but let me know and I can call you if that works better. Thanks again Carl,
Andrew
Andrew, I didn't here from you in time but I can get you a jib but the main may be a problem. The few that he had are for tall rigged Cal 25 Cal 27 and Cal 28 which run like 27' 8" - 29'10" with a 8'or 9' foot, no mains had a 10'-11' foot. There is one more main still on a boom I'll check on.In any event I bought all the used sails he had, about 25 this morning over the phone and will pick them up in two weeks. If this will fit your time frame, when I get the sails home and double check all measurements again I'll contact you and sell you what you think will work for $75.00 each plus shipping. In the whole lot I only found 3 sails with damage ( mouse holes) . They were stored inside a building high and dry. He had some huge (to me) sails with a 37 ft luff that looked like new, I bought those as well , they are big enough for a boat cover, either that or for Ebay!!! . There are also 2 roller reefing headsails a Spinnaker and a mylar headsail. PS I just reread your post if you wait till I recheck the main BEFORE you cut the boom one of these mains may be perfect for you. The mains did have 1 reef point on them. Carl
Hi Carl,
Its my goal to step the mast this weekend. Finally got in my mast bases and chainplate which I had a friend back at home fabricate (see pics below - all it cost me was 130 in shipping). When I get everything up and ready I'll take some final measurements for the jib and main (although I think I'm pretty damn close) and get back to you. No problem in regards to the timeline, I'm on vacation after this week in Canada for 2 weeks so that works out perfectly.
Look forward to hearing from you and can't thank you enough for your help!
Andrew
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Mast bases??? Spreader maybe!!LOL It all looks nice. Glad I can help. Carl
Hahahah whoops, I don't think that would work as a mast base at all, but yes spreader bases! :)
Unfortunately no mast stepping happened this weekend. In true Bermudian fashion our package of parts arrived on island on Tuesday but as of today still hasn't cleared customs :(. Took one day to cross the world to get to us and going on 6 days to get through customs. Oh well!
I did take pictures of the cross section of the mast. Would you say I need sail slides/track system or just a bolt rope for the main sail?
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