Hey Paul we or maybe just me can't view your video due to privacy setting. What is this thing called Facebook? A lobster trap for friends?
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fixing the backstay
Thanks Ben, I have been admiring your work too, especially the woodwork. Sorry for not replying sooner but have been having problems getting this to post, it kicks me off back to the sign in page. We flew the spinnaker a few time last summer, broke a mast pad eye and the end off the spinnaker pole doing it. The main sail also has the star and three bars with a 5 under it. I was thinking about putting a quick cleat or cam cleat on the winch blocks. I am still trying to get the video to run. It was transferred from my phone and its a video of wing on wing with the spinnaker and 150 genoa at the same time. It hasn't been bad working on it in the water at all. We do like the place that we sail. Its near solomons island maryland. The recently posted pictures are of the ongoing prep work for epoxy prime coat and what I had to do to fix the back stay chainplate. The hull deck joint popped apart somewhere along the line. Maybe this weekend or next weekend may have the whole deck primed. The reason we had the spinnaker hanging off the deck was because it went in the drink coming down and needed to dry it out before packing it up. P.S. The best tool that I have used through this whole process is a 4 1/2 inch angle grinder with a wire wheel for cleaning steel. It goes right through the gel coat and takes out a larger area around pitted gel coat making it quicker to patch with less sanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariel 109
epoxy prime coat
Before and after
Before and after
Paul,
First, it's great to see you making so much progress in relatively short time, and to think your doing it all while still in the water where our beloved Commanders need to be.
For me, I have to go sit in the cockpit under a metal roof and pretend / contemplate the day I'll be in the water, sailing or just relaxing either pier side or on the hook.
Secondly, I love the wet slip location you have. Is that a private dock / slip?
Okay, here's where you have me stumped, in reference to the repairs of the backstay chain plate. From the photos, it appeared that the backstay chainplate was over stressed and pulled up and forward, thus damaging the deck / taff rail area. I can't see it, but I would imagine the chain plate knee got tweaked in the process. Did you replace / reglass a new chain plate knee in place to receive the chainplate?
What are you doing with the hydraulic bottle jack? Did you disconnect the backstay from the chain plate during these repairs? I imagine you did, so that you could have at least temporarily removed the chain plate to access the condition of the knee. Were the holes for the mounting bolts elongated? Did you reglass the knee, fill the holes with thickened epoxy, redrill, etc.? Did you drill the chain plate for an additional bolt up closer to the underside of the deck?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm having trouble seeing this repair through, and on such a critical structural fitting.
It's nice to see that you are making forward progress, keep the post and photos coming.
We've been working until 9 and 10 pm every fri,sat and sunday and Lisa has blisters on her knees but were no longer coming home covered in fiberglass from sanding thank god. and thats only the epoxy prime coat we still need to sand and paint before the wood and winches go back on , I'm shooting for the end of the month and I think I'll wait until march to haul and do the bottom so we can sail until the fall , I aquired her on the last day of july 2010 and started the refurbishing on new years day we just have to be a little more creative working afloat and twisting until it hurts awhile sometimes. We are in a pretty protected cove in the Solomons Island Md area and in these warm months have been getting about two dozen blue crabs every weekend out of our two traps at the slip , thats our other reward. The transom, knee and chainplate mounting are all solid however I plan to beef it all up anyway my problem was the transom hull/deck joint popped apart I think I heard it while flying the spinnaker and 150 genoa downwind last spring so I jacked it out with some 4x4 cribbing cleaned it all out real good with the wire wheel and used 2 tubes of west system six 10 thickened epoxy to resbond it and I'm doing it all the way around and I have a donor with some old mohoghany for the new rub rail .I plan to do my hull in the dark blue like yours in spring or earlier depending on weather, jacking the transom back out put the tension back where it belongs on the fore and backstay, also I've read in some posts about guys removing the lead ballasts thinking it was for an onboard motor counterweight , Nonsense it is ,the lead in the keel is to counterweight your mast and sails to keep the vessel from healing over and also allows the boat to rite itself , to remove the lead is a hazard that throws off the entire trim charactaristics of the boat we all want to sail faster but we dont want to lose our boats to a good gust of wind.
Paul,
Thanks for the clarification. Okay, if your hull to deck joint separated, and as you state it happened on the transom, did you also retab the joint from the inside?? Thickened epoxy is great for filling cracks and sealing / bonding but the hull to deck joint must have multiple layers of glass tabbing to be structurally sound. Did you remove the chainplate knee and reinstall? Did you reglass any areas from the inside of the lazarette area? As I'm sure your well aware, the loads placed on the shrouds and stays can be extreme and simply putting thickened epoxy to "seal the joint" will not achieve this. I just hate for you to go through this repair of yours, and find out next year that it doesn't hold up to the normal loads placed on it.
You may be surprised to hear this, but I have never eaten blue crag. I know, I know, I must be the only on on the mid atlantic seaboard that has not eaten blue crab. Am I missing out? I used to visit marinas around the Solomons Island area when I was teaching up at the Patuxent Naval Air Station during my Naval days (I retired from the Navy in 2007). I really liked the area. You have great sailing grounds!
Paul,
Almost forgot, but I have to say, the external lead ballast (pig) that can be viewed in your bilge when you lift up the bilge access covers is not the same ballast your referring to that was designed, lowered and encased in the keel cavity. There is a wealth of expert, and master craftsmen on this site, with very detailed knowlege of our beloved vessels. To suggest that the external lead (pig) is not for compensation for the lack of an inboard motor, and without any supporting documentation, I say is wrong. One could argue, that lead in the bilge, whether deep in the hull as one monolithic lead ignot or the small lead pig you can visibly see in the shallow of our bilge, is indeed ballast and we who sail know what ballast does and is good for. The question that you should ask yourself, is why did Pearson add this additional ballast? And that question has been answered on this forum.
Have a great evening.
I have read alot of the discussion on here and I'm one of those with no inboard engine so I'm in the should I or should'nt I stage , I would love to get the lead out literally and yes I am reinforcing with glassed in mohoghany in the transom and glass on the outside also, I dont want this problem to resurface and as you know we dont do any ocean sailing here and I cant get enough time off to take a trip that long and I didnt mean to seem I was discrediting anyone and you should eat a crabcake , you really are missing out, Thanks
Paul, the boat is looking great!
Removed the external ballast from Ariel 109 over the winter and haven't had any regrets. Having those sharp heavy lead blocks flopping around in the bilge made me a little nervous. I've been out sailing with her since in strong winds and she feels the same as before. In light summer winds of Western Long Island Sound she feels faster.
Watch you fingers taking those blocks out!
Thanks Ben, I peek down there occasionally and someone did a real botched up job I assume of covering them up in a bad fiberglass cloth tent maybe to get over the eye bolts , she sits in the water now perfectly about an inch or two below the waterline down the full lenght of the hull so thats what I'm worried about messing up but as far as the rigging and pulling of them i do that sort of thing at work alot changing out large compressors and pumps in tight spaces but the surface underfoot is'nt moving and rocking about, I could rig a gantry and hoist over it easy enough but not this summer we have our hands full and maybe that will fall under the interior work schedule this fall and winter before I pull it in the spring to do the hull and rudder because once the hull is done I'll be itching to push it to the limit and I'm contemplating running her in the governors cup race next year if shes ready it's run in the beginning of august its a race from Annapolis to Point Lookout straight down the bay its quite a haul but the lead is the only weight i have left i can ditch I may even have to throw out the anchor in that one and the cooler
Finished coamings and paint
Finished coamings and paint