main furling - many questions
BUT
still you guys, isn't this UNIQUE and worth discussion?
The photos SO FAR on this thread are great! But it is a little like the three blind men and the elephant. More comments would be produced if there were some whole boat shots of this furling/reefing mainsail deployed!!!
>First question is this: Is the Profurl a reefing unit - is there such a thing?
There might be occasions when the sail would be rolled part way for long periods. Can this be done with Ralph and Mike's system?
We had an exhaustive discussion on the Forum here back in Sept '02 about furling vs reefing. Then, of course it was entirely concerning the jib. Profurl probably has the best overall reputation of the half dozen or so furlers on the market - there are/were furlers that have smaller drums like CDI and Spin-tec. CDI doesn't require special stay rigging.
Don't know if Spin-tec ever took off, but its furler was aimed at cruisers, said to need zero maintenance, looked like it was all bronze. (WRONG. I was thinking of the on-again-off-again all bronze Pathfinder furler, also a simple hank-on system)
>Second question: the mast, as I understand it, is a problem in sail efficiency because it causes eddys. Does this happen with a "loose luff" main? It looks like the smaller diameter drums of Spin-tec, for instance, could bring the furler closer to the mast. It doesn't sound like there is a problem. In fact the boat is said to sail more efficiently.
>Third: Can this system be set up with a furler that does NOT use extrusions for the luff? Any advantage in this?
>Fourth: Why not rig a boomkin to move the backstay further aft so that the boom would not have to be shortened? It might be more difficult to move a split backstay aft - but anything is possible if you are messing around!
>Fifth: There obviously has to be some alteration to the mainsail, right? At least take the battens out! Also, it would roll better if it rolled up like a jib - a 'rightangle' (luff and foot) main wouldn't roll up worth a damn.
OR, since the main is now a flying sail, maybe a jib can be used, as in jib cut.
I've decided to raise the end of boom on 338 to get headroom in the cockpit - but keep the tac in its regular position on the mast. So the question is:
Will this reefing furler system work with a boom that is not at a right angle to the mast? And, how is the now running clew controlled? Can you use the old groove? It must be a bit of a problem when the wind gets up?
The best thing about Ralph and Mike's invention is slabless reefing.
It looks like it's more sail control to me - if all you do is roll it! But I'm sitting in my kitchen. Not being attached along the mast the storm sail could easily be raised on the unused track.
Sixth: I fell for a "screecher furler". I think also known as a flying furler. It only furls. This you raise with a halyard on the jibstay. The furler - swivel and drum - is 'permanently' part of the sail you'd attach it to. So that when you take it down the furler gets stuffed into a bag with the sail. The furler is for a asymetric spinaker, or something soft, not for a jib like Bill has which is made of translucent metal and isn't huggable.
>SO: I'm wondering if something as 'simple' as that would be adaptable to this wonderful vertical reefing invention?
A 'plain' stay just abaft the mast (still with the offset goosneck) could be pretty easy to rig....
A forward-lowering hinged mast would be a challenge. Maybe the reefin-main could be entirely rigged to the mast, which you might want to if you regularly lower and raise it. You'd have a super bracket coming off, or part of, the hinge, maybe. No VANG, right? Ideas?
It would be great to see that slide and block arrangement underneath the furler up close too! Tight quarters there.
That brings it around to the #1 reefing aspect. The primary function of this idea for me is its attribute as a REEFER. And as I remember most sailors say that furlers don't do this very well. Maybe this has changed since we last talked on the subject. From a cruising point of view, Can this work AS WELL AS slab reefing - IS IT STRONG ENOUGH - to shorten sail and keep it short for extended periods in challenging conditions? Is it a viable alternative? It's a great idea! Right, that is the question.:confused: