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Bill
04-15-2004, 07:34 PM
Spring boat show time. Vistited the Oakland show today and took a few photos.

First, there is everyone's yacht tender -- The Porta Bote. :D

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:36 PM
Then there is the new idea for carrying a tender on your yacht. I'm already in contact with the yacht yard on this one :D

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:38 PM
Bow is impressive, but for sure the two "wishbone" boom masts make a statement :eek:

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:39 PM
The boat is a Wylie 66 . . .

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:41 PM
On a more serious note, here a photos of the Beta diesel engine that appears to be a great one for the Ariel/Commander.

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:42 PM
The left side:

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:43 PM
Right side . .

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:54 PM
Prices run $5800 for the 10hp and $6500 for the 13.5hp engine. The list of included equipment is more extensive than that offered by the competition (Yanmar).

One interesting feature is the fresh water/raw water cooling. Seawater is pumped through a heat exchanger and cools the fresh water in the closed system like air through a car's radiator. Another is the manual pump fitted to the engine for changing oil.

For more information see: www.betamarinenc.com

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:55 PM
Equal time (sort of) for the competition. Here is the Yanmar 1GM10

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:56 PM
Side view:

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:58 PM
The sales person was a little vague on prices for the Yanmar saying "between $5000 and $6500." Plus stuff. :confused:

Bill
04-15-2004, 07:59 PM
Here is one of the more "hi-tech" boats in the show (note the raisable rudder) :cool:

Bill
04-15-2004, 08:00 PM
The hi-tech sail ;)

Bill
04-15-2004, 08:02 PM
Note the proud skipper of this SF Bay Junk and its adjustable dagger board :)

Bill
04-15-2004, 08:06 PM
The smallest boats on display (except for trailerables) were 32 feet. Sail away prices for the 32's ran right around $125k. Nice boats, but . . . All had wheel steering and most had boom or mast furling mains :mad: Guess I'll stick with my Ariel :D

Bill
04-22-2004, 08:45 AM
* Strong sales and strong attendance marked the 9th annual Pacific Sail
Expo (PSE), the largest sailboat show on the West Coast that concluded
Sunday, April 18 at Oakland's Jack London Square. Some 13,000 people
attended the five-day event, which represents a 7% increase over last
year's attendance. This crowd also proved to be a buying public: several
exhibitors left the show with sales that set a new company record. PSE 2004
drew an international group of over 300 exhibitors. -
http://www.sailamerica.com/press/pse-042104.cfm

ebb
04-22-2004, 10:01 AM
They must all have arrived on the weekend because it was pretty empty when I was there. 13,000, is that a lot of people? Corse I was a gawker this year, the guvmint having cleaned me out.


On a happier note....
On researching Portabotes, a couple of cruisers who had chosen the 8 footer as their tender had some complaints. The most serious was that the narrow and sloping entry made the bow dig in in a chop. It was hard to row and didn't sail worth a damn. I do not know if Practical Sailor has tested the PortaBote in it's newest shape.

Something you have to test is how easy is a folding boat to set up - how much deck space do you need. There was an hilarious 'World's Funniest Videos' that had this old geezer attempting to get the thing to stay open but had it suddenly shut like a giant clam and swallow him up!

There is, I think, an English firm still around that makes a really nice salty folding sailing pram out of marine ply. Styled on the Optimist class pram. There used to be two or three. If anybody is interested I'll try to look it up.

mrgnstrn
04-23-2004, 06:54 AM
yes, interested.

Maybe better than my current notional plan, which is to build a plywood pram, like an "Itty-Bitty" something like it, only build it in two halves (front, back) so that the two can be stacked inside one-another, for on deck storage. then you put the two together for use.
still working out the sizes and mechanics of it all, but like I said, notional.

ebb
04-23-2004, 11:29 AM
Capt mrgmstm'
You will be pleased, but I'm out of here.

To be fair to PortaBote: both of the cruisers mentioned above also decided to continue using their folding botes as their tender. You can't beat their tuffness or the package they fold into. One could easily be rigged to the cabin-side on an Ariel. ??

c_amos
05-05-2004, 10:33 AM
FOLDABLE BOAT UNSINKABLE FACTORY SECOND

I came upon this auction on E-bay, and thought of this thread.

http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/c5/ce/37_2.JPG

I am looking for a tender, but can not see a 10' folded boat on my deck so I am going to pass on it.

In case anyone else can, here is a link.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15266&item=3676065012&rd=1


I have nothing to do with this auction, or the porta-boat co.

commanderpete
05-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Nice, but the dinghy I built out of scrap lumber is working out real well.

She don't row so good, but she'll carry 40 cases of beer....easy.