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carl291
03-01-2010, 02:30 PM
craigslist list Classic Pearson 26 (http://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/1621492798.html)

carl291
03-01-2010, 09:53 PM
26' Alberg Pearson (http://rochester.craigslist.org/boa/1622904661.html) ;)

Rico
03-03-2010, 10:03 AM
Related to Post #1 above

Here is the picture in the ad...

It seems like a Maryland Commander in very nice shape. It is said to be C-269, although I do remember seeing a white hulled Commander that was also using the same number. - Maybe a somewhat recent refurbishment???

Anyway - the ad also lists that the boat comes with the original Pearson blueprint Drawings. Does anyone have a set I coule make copies of? I'd love to have a copy of the full size hull lines for the Commander....

Ad text:

Classic 1965 Pearson Commander 26 in great shape. Newly varnished teak trim around cockpit that seats 6. Blue Hull. 1 Main, 1 Working Jib, 1 150 Genoa, 1 Spinnaker with all poles. Sleeps 4. Sink. Porta-potty. New VHF. Depthmeter and compass at cockpit. LOA 25'7". Beam 8'. Draft 3'8". Cockpit length 9'. Sail area 311 sq. ft. Self bailing cockpit. Have original blueprints and materials from Pearson Yachts. Needs outboard to fit in engine well. Will send pictures to interested parties.

Lucky Dawg
03-03-2010, 11:56 AM
I'm in contact with the seller about purchasing the drawings. Will let you know.
KW

Commander 147
03-03-2010, 01:06 PM
There are others of us that would share the cost to get copies...

Lucky Dawg
03-03-2010, 01:22 PM
He said the prospective buyer - one in the works - may want it, but if so he'll make a copy and I would certainly share. Would like the original! Will be happy to share copies of either one.

Per owner "it is a one page of blueprint, dated 04-27-64. ...measures 22” x 24” and does not look as modern as what you sent me" (the sailplan we have all seen)

Rico
03-04-2010, 10:37 AM
Count me in on the copies as well!

Frenna
03-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Hi,

I too am interested in whatever print(s) might become available. FYI, in the modern world, reprographics shops (blueprint shops in the old days) use scanner type printing equipment to reproduce drawings that size. Any local repro shop could theoretically scan the original and save the file as a PDF, which could then be shared online. Any local Reprographics place could then print the file out full size, or any other size.

What I am getting at is, if we could get the original scanned and posted as a file, we would all have access to the resource without anybody having to hassle with mailing tubes all over.

The cost should be minimal, just a few bucks or so to have the file made, similar to have local prints made.

So if someone is in contact with the drawings holder, and can facilitate such transaction, that would be awesome.

Looks like a nice boat for the money, too.

Lucky Dawg
03-05-2010, 08:23 AM
So if someone is in contact with the drawings holder, and can facilitate such transaction, that would be awesome.

I'm on it. If the print doesn't go to the person currently making an offer on the boat, the owner seemed willing to sell the blueprint. If I end up with it, you'll be in possession of a copy ASAP!

Do you know if a blueprint shop can restore a partially damaged blueprint? (as this one is) Here is a photo of the print that Rico acquired.

Frenna
03-08-2010, 11:54 AM
I would assume the best reasonable option would be to start with a scan of the print as you have it. This is an old "blueprint". Later the process was modified to "blueline" so that the background is white. To restore it as a color image would require a color scan.

To create a black and white image, a normal scan would do.

In either case the restoration work would best be accomplished by spending some tedious time with Photoshop.

It would also be easy to reverse the image, creating dark lines on a light background.

Considering the effort involved, I would think it would be better to seek out a higher quality starting point.

It sounds like th Peobody Museum may have the originals, which are transparent. That is what the prints are made from in the old process, though they can still be scanned using the new process (glorified copying, with a digital file intermediary).

I doubt if the old amonia based blue process is still done, but I am not positive.

In any case, it would be really helpful if we could pool the available drawings and compare and contrast what is out there. From that we could find a way to make the best options widely available.

Those old blueprints do fall apart over time too, so if you frame one in a light filled room I would expect it to not last long.

But a good reproduction made in the modern way would be nice to have available.

Perhaps we could start with a database of known drawings with descriptions and drawing date, and possibly some pictures.

Lucky Dawg
03-10-2010, 08:40 AM
Unfortunately, the owner of this print believes it is worth $250 :confused:, so I'm not pursuing it. I offered him $25.

I've spoken with the Peabody - they informed me that they have the Ariel prints, but not the Commander. If you have different info, please share!

Bill
03-10-2010, 12:58 PM
The drawings on pages 149a and 149b in the manual are the only ones we every found of the Commander. Pearson did include blueprints with each of its yachts of the time. Unfortunately, not many of the blueprints seem to have survived. Still, the $250 asking price for the Commander blueprint seems a bit high, given the blueprint's condition.

ebb
03-11-2010, 07:08 AM
Make sure that any print you want to buy has the ALBERG signature on them.
Carl A. Alberg, Marblehead, Mass.
see the lines drawing in the Manual, pg144, lower right corner is what you should see on a most likely authentic 'blueprint'.