what is this boat?

[kendall]

Ran across it a couple nights ago while checking Craigs list (habit)

It's listed as a pearson 24, but every pearson 24 I've been able to find dopesn't look the same, the lark has the flush deck, so that's ruled out, and the 'pearson 24' has a hull that's more similar to the Ariel. Neither have the half doghouse.

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/1190668704.html

Thinking it may not even be a Pearson,
Curiousity only, no intent to buy.

Ken.

[John]

The keel doesn't look like any Pearson I have seen

It isn't even an imitation:confused:

[Lucky Dawg]

WOW! That is NOT a pretty boat. :eek:

[John]

Just a guess...but is that an early Seafarer? The winner gets 3 jelly beans

[mbd]

Dunno - but for some reason I'm guessing the model wasn't too popular.

If you look at the cabin, it could be what's left after an Ariel owner tries to make a Commander sized cockpit...

[frank durant]

sweet lines,classic cabin,performance keel and nice tandem trailer...it's a steal

[Tim D.]

Frank, step back away from the phone ;)

[kendall]

Don't know, but it looks like it was designed by several different people who weren't on friendly terms.
The cabin and coaming when viewed together look like an old pickup truck parked beside a fence.

I do have to go to newaygo in a couple, I may email the guy and drop in just to see what it really looks like.

Ken

[ebb]

definitely an east coast

Sogsnot Default Swap derivative.:)

[frank durant]

Easy guys.....boats have feeling too. Even REALLY UGLY ones :eek:

[Commander 274]

To take this thread in a more positive direction... I saw this boat at the harbor last weekend and after about an hour of paddling around the harbor this evening, I found it. Some similar attributes to the Commander, however, it looked like it had a spade rudder and maybe a fin keel or maybe even a centerboard (I couldn't see). Any idea what it is?

[kendall]

A much more positive direction. Not as pretty, or as gracefull looking as a commander, but not 'it's not mine, I'm just working on it' ugly. plenty of track!

Ken.

[ebb]

Could it still be a Pearson of the same era as Commander but a Bill Shaw?


Has what appears in the pics a nice rise to the toe rail as it goes forward.

But also what appears to be NO side access in the cockpit to the interior - like lockers.....? A lotta less mahogany in the coamings!

Could it be a Tim Lackey inspired cruiser to daysailor conversion?



There's definitely an Alberg look to the day sailor.
Be great to see a Commander side by side with this lady to pick out the differences. I'd agree that the Commander would stand out in comparison.
Probably because of Alberg''s no compromise design ethic.
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Could it be a Rhodes (O'Day) Outlaw with the forward windows missing?
[just found a pic: this boat does have a thin keel BUT also a keel hung rudder!]

[Commander 274]

Ran into the owners of the boat that I previously posted about. It is a 1966 Chris Craft. There were only 50 made.

They enjoyed checking out the Commander.

Upon further research, it is called the Capitan 26.

[John]

Here is the sail boat group of Chris Craft afficinados.

http://www.djerickson.com/ccsail/

According to this, the Capri and the Capitan were the Chris Craft equivalents of the Commander/Ariel.

Having said that, the underbody in the brochures looks radically different than was seen in the picture. This would suggest several unpleasant theories.

Hope this helps.

[ebb]

Wasn't it Bill who just reminded us that Pearson was forced to stop using the name Commander by ChrisCraft?
Supposedly Pearson decided to stop production because of threatened legal action...,.?
Wonder what really happened? Why didn't CC complain at the beginning of the Commander run?

Pearson could have upscaled the Commander rank to Commodore.
Or given it the swedish Kommendor.
Or chose the only other nautical name in Shakespeare's Tempest (from where Ariel probably came): Boatswain. (Bosun)
Goes with Ensign, yes?

BOSUN imco would have been an excellent boat class name.

[John]

In the light of day, I went back and looked hard at the picture of the Capitan. The keel sits down behind the wheels of the trailer. There is a whisper of sweep in the keel, maybe. That would make it conform to the brochure. It does have a nice sweep at the rail line. And it is a Sparkman & Stevens hull. They have been known to draft a nice one now and then.

Certainly Chris Craft spent a fair amount of time and money promoting their large powerboat as the "Chris Craft Commander." This was not a hidden product. It sounds as though Pearson didn't spend a great amount of time or money researching the Commander name. We have not been bothered either, so it sounds as though some accomodation was reached between the parties.

[Commander227]

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1963/Tripp-Lentsch-29-Sloop-2101163/Milford/CT/United-States

Ain't she a sweetie?

[John]

William Tripp ALWAYS drafted a sweet set of lines. If there is any doubt, go here.
http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEW_DESIGNER.ASP?DESIGNER_ID=13

Wear a towel cause your tongue will be hanging out. The Lentsch/Tripp 29 is certainly a member of the family. If I had the money, you had better believe that a Block Island 40 would be on my short list. What can I say, yawls tend to be great looking boats.

[Commander227]

He had a few slip ups, I do agree on the Block Island although

[kendall]

It's been listed again, write-up states 'Entire cabin dome slides forward for ease of access and more ventalation' (their spelling)

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/1368738413.html

Still visually handicapped though!

Ken.

[John]

My suspicion is that the painter of that boat was visually impaired!!:eek:

[kendall]

May have found out what it is, from a post on the Yahoo Triton group:

1962 Pearson Aero 24



This may not be the right forum but any suggestions would be welcome.I own the above boat.It was built by Aero Marine Plastics(Saulito)builder of the WC Tritons.Approx 15-20 were built???In 40+ yrs of sailing I have not seen another one although Iknow there were some in the Ventura CA area in the 60's.It is unusual as the doghouse slides forward on tracks to provide standing headroom,not a "pop-up" but a"push-forward"I am wondering if I have the last one still sailing?It is a Wm Tripp design.Any suggestions on how I might out if others exist??

[ebb]

Long Shot.
Tripp Naval Archetecture might have a lead on Bill Tripp designs, builders, and organizations. There may be a Tripp design association on the net, like our Albergs have a number of them. Our early fiberglass boats engender a lot of loyalty in their owners.

Good Old Boat might have done an article on the Aero?
Small Craft Advisor is another possibility for suggestions or creating a lead.
Might try a query letter in Latitude 38.

Good luck!


On this thread the craigslist pics don't read anymore.
If there are more fotos of the Aero posting them here might be good too.
This website gets a lot of visitors. There are 3 search engines scouring these pages 24/7. It's possible that an authentic post with a title like Aeromarine 24 will end up on google. There may be some Aero24's looking for you!
And hoist one to our Bill and the mysterious BillII (and this great vBulletin format) for making it all happen!:cool:

[Ariel 109]

For a slice through history follow these connections

First comes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Augustus_Stevens

Followed by his son:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Augustus_Stevens,_Jr.

A company is formed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox_%26_Stevens

Phil Rhodes works and eventually takes over the company:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Rhodes

Bill Tripp works for Rhodes:

William Tripp deserves a Wikipedia page

Check out Tripp Junor's work:

http://www.trippdesign.net/#/home

[kendall]

was sent a pic by the owner of the other one that I uploaded here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/merc2dogs/Temp#5440368911272877058

Looks better in the water....

Ken.

[Tony G]

Yes indeed! I can see the 'Tripp' look in the photos of her floating. If she had a shoal keel with a swing tucked up in it, like some O'day 22, she'd be an excellent boat for Minnesota lakes. With the usual caveat of,'misquito repellant necessary.'

While the Block Island and the Bermuda 40 seem to be more notable favorites, I have a strong affection for the Mercer 44 largely because the Columbia 50 are too much boat(for me).

[ebb]

Ken, I hope those Aero24 photos can stay with us. Not disappear like what happens to them blue-lines sometimes.

The other views show a really charming and unique weekender.:D

When camped you would have the slider open and have a bimini with side curtains or noseum netting over the whole accommodation and cockpit.
Looks like there is only the V-berth below for sleeping.
A tent would allow double berthing in the cockpit.

I wonder if the keel could be redesigned (longer and less deep) to give the boat a little more shoal to make close in exploring easier.
The English would have given her twin keels so she would remain upright when the tide went out.

[kendall]

was sent a pic by the owner of the other one that I uploaded here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/merc2dogs/Temp#5440368911272877058

Looks better in the water....

Ken.

Reason I showed up here today was to update photos, so current link to at least a couple here is: https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOvymEpX_N35wkIMnbdlk_LTn-zEWdlDsqhj33O

[Bill]

Google says it's not on their server . . .

[kendall]

I may not have had it set for sharing. See if I can get it uploaded here.

[ebb]

Looks homemade.

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