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Bill
01-07-2008, 10:01 PM
This is a test . . .

commanderpete
01-08-2008, 12:05 PM
Never liked tests

Bill
01-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Ah, there is life out there . . .

ebb
01-08-2008, 03:51 PM
It's a safe bet that physicists and chemists will never figure out if there really is life out there. Human consciousness, that's another mystery. AND why so many and so little of that?

commanderpete
01-10-2008, 07:08 AM
ooooohhh.......deep thoughts

Hurts my head

"In a sailboat I become oblivious to everything else in the world."
A. Einstein

ebb
01-10-2008, 07:48 AM
Ole Al was a proponent of time/space relativity. So was Carl, of course.


When next broad reaching (no pun intended) in your Commander or Ariel,
you are moving at about

.00162 knots per second - on a 'pale blue dot' that is rotating at

18 miles per second - whose seasonal circuit of its star is about

20 miles per second - in a solar system moving in its star community about

13 miles per second - which is moving about

200 miles per second in the Milky Way - which is drifting about

100 miles per second in relation to all the other galaxies.


SO, if you feel a little funny - it is not the knishes for lunch -

non-theoretical relativity is the problem.:eek:
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Nice boat C'pete!
Notice the aft-lowering tabernackle
and those great hinges on the aft-opening forehatch.
Definitely a European/Brit sailboat. Can anybody ID the beauty?
Looks like about the same dimensions as an A/C,
with a very similar straight sheer and a nice laid deck!

Bill
01-10-2008, 10:08 AM
We had a Burns 30 that had an aft-opening forehatch. Felt it improved safety when changing headsails (or otherwise opening the hatch) while sailing off shore. Less ocean below :rolleyes:

commanderpete
01-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Interesting bit of history to that boat. Confiscated by the Gestapo

http://www.einstein-website.de/z_biography/tuemmler-e.html

bill@ariel231
01-10-2008, 12:50 PM
it would be a blast to build a replica. the lines show her to be a promising design for a trailer sailboat. Although a bit short on head room.

of course that would leave me with two boats since i'd still hang on to A-231...

ebb
01-10-2008, 01:05 PM
Really nice 7 page download (print notation at end of article)

Tummler must have been a really high end yacht -
as the multiplier (4.2) for the stated German marks cost of 15,000 into 1929 (pre-crash) dollars puts the value at $63,000.

Now if anybody, accepting that,
wants to put Tummler's 1929 dollar cost into present day

InflatoBucks...........


It all relative, folks.
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Hey there bill,
We posted at the same time.

About that replica idea. I just took my inch rule that also has a mm side to it and laid it along the drawing on page 3 of the downloaded document of the interior - plan and side view.

In mm the actual measure of the image is 11 1/2 mm. If you double that you can translate the scale roughly for feet. (Because doubling 11 1/2 gives you 23.) You are correct - the inside height is only about 4 1/2 feet under the cabin deck. Extra wide, extra long slide hatch might work.

I might first upscale the inside to say Ariel dimensions (5'6"??) and see what upscaling all of Tummler's dimensions would produce; length and beam.

In many respects the Harms/Tummler design from 80 years ago is quite modern. Straight stem. Length to Beam ratio.

bill@ariel231
01-10-2008, 01:53 PM
I had the same thoughts about the canoe body and straight stem. she could be a fast inshore boat. 'would probably even get someone an invite to a classic (wood) yacht regatta.