Commander 131 onboard

[jshisha]

Happy to report that I have just purchased Commander Hull 131. She is currently in Martha's Vinyard. I need to figure out how to get her to her berth at Ocean Beach, which is in Fire Island New York.

I would like to purchase a trailer.

She is in good shape, I think I will sail her this summer as is and then start the restroration. This forum will be a great source of knowledge.

Thanks

Jake

[commanderpete]

Very Good!

We're gonna have 3 Commanders and 1 Ariel within about a 6 mile radius

Time for a Regatta

[tha3rdman]

Doggonit, I wanna regatta too, There has to be more A/C's in the upper Chesapeake. But hey welcome to the board, or as I view it "More then I ever wanted to know, place."

[Bill]

This should be posted in the events forum, but since it came up here . . .

Yesterday, after OYC's Sunday Brunch regatta, a bunch of Us SF Bay Fleeters were discussing possible plans for a sailing get together for local Ariels and Commanders. Maybe you also could plan something for next summer in your area? There seem to be plenty of boats for the fun! Maybe a race and / or raft up in the middle of the Chesapeake?

If you are a paid up member, you got a copy of the roster last Summer [includes E-mails], so you would be able to contact most every yacht in your area.

Just a suggestion . . .:)

[MRH]

Congratulations Jake and Adieu Francine.

She's a great boat and has shown me and my family the best of times over 21 seasons. Take care of her and she'll take care of you. Long may she sail.

MRH

[jshisha]

I am going to install a compass and a Garmin 440 Chart plotter which will also work as the depth sounder. I want to install them both in the cockpit on the bulkhead that is on the port side of the companion way. I will cut out a hole in the bulkhead for the compass and mount the chart plotter on a bracket. I want to mount both the chart plotter and compass on the port side, because I will be running the halyards on the starboard side ( I am right handed). My question is how close can the compass to the chart plotter without getting magnetic deviation.
Any comments or suggestions regarding my proposed layout will be welcomed.

[Commander 147]

Any comments or suggestions regarding my proposed layout will be welcomed.


I know that when you install your compass you will need to twist the red and black wires that power the light in the compass to keep those from creating a deviation. If the GPS cable is sheathed you won't be able to do that.

Have you considered a swing out mount for the GPS that would allow you to swing it into view in the companionway while sailing and back into the cabin at the end of the day where it is protected from weather and devious people?

[bill@ariel231]

I wouldn't worry about the GPS interfering with the compass (it's low amp stuff). a bigger problem is if there are speaker magnets or steel near the compass (i.e.things like a VHF with a built in speaker or old paint cans in the ice-box).

a consideration for the GPS install you might want to consider is the timeframe in which it will be obsolete and ready for replacement and upgrade. While Nav components like compasses can last for the life of the boat, I generally plan for electronics to be in service for no more than 4-5 years. For that reason i went with a chart plotter on a swing arm (simpler future upgrade with no changes to cut-outs....) :)


here is my mounting solution:

http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?t=1230&highlight=a-231&page=4

cheers:
bill@ariel231

ps: you may also want to look at installing a small opening hatch on the bulkhead and mounting the plotter on the Ice Box. It would be protected from the elements but operable from the cockpit....

[jshisha]

I have replaced the rotted deck, awgriped the hull and painted her deck. Initially I was going to continue to sail with the hanked on jib. Now that the deck is repainted, the stem piece rechromed I am concerned that the flopping around of the jib as I take it off and on will damage the newly painted deck and wear off the new chrome job on my stem piece. Is my concern well founded?

What are the current recommendations for a furler? Which one, price and how long it will take to install?

Thank you.

PS hope to have photos up in next two weeks

[MRH]

Jake -

Eagerly awaiting photos. Please post if you have a chance.

[commanderpete]

Hey Jake

Looking forward to those pictures too.

I think the deck paint will be fine

People debate hanks vs. furler all the time on the internet. One factor nobody talks about is your existing sail inventory. If you have a selection of good headsails, there is less reason to switch.

A 135 genoa is a nice size for a furling sail, since we're blessed with good wind around here. Converting a hank-on sail would require adding a luff tape and suncover. Unless the sail is in great shape, it might be throwing good money after bad.

The CDI Flexible furlers seem to be much less expensive than Harken, Schaefer, Profurl, etc. I don't know if anybody around here has one.

[jshisha]

After much delay we are making some progress on Commander 131 currently named FRANCINE. The boatyard had moved the boat outside for 2 weeks but forgot to hook up the hoses to the scubbers. As a result I had water about 6 to 8 inches above the floorboards in the hull for about a month. I just found out today and pumped it out. Can I expect permenant damage? How long until the wood dries out

[bill@ariel231]

Well... i have seen worse situations turned around with a thorough cleaning with hose and shop-vac. The best follow-thru will probably include a dehumidifier running below decks for a week or so.
she looks great on the outside, the inside will get there. good luck! :)

[jshisha]

Bill

Thanks for the encouraging words. I hope she dries out nicley.

[Tony G]

Bill's right. A good scrubbing with some clean water will help a lot. Open every hatch inside and give it some time to air out. If you can't get up to see her more frequently than every couple of weeks you may have to resort to a box fan instead of a dehumidifier unless the yard is willing to empty the collection pan. Scupper drain hoses, drain the humidifier....I don't know...do you think they can?

[Rico]

Hey Jake - Good progress... The pictures make you boat look GREAT!
It is a shame that the boatyard goofed and let the water accumulate - maybe they'll be willing to do a bit of clean-up and some restoration work to make up for this...

The sole is likely teak (as it is in all other boats I've looked at) and will not suffer at all. The rest is coated/sealed so the outcome will be more inconvenience than damage. You won't be able to tell that there was that much water in there. Most boats get water int there at some point or another. but getting it dry via a fan is a good idea.

It is possible that a dehumidifier might pull out the moisture a bit too quickly and might cause some problems (??)

Good luck! - you are much closer to getting C-131 in the water!

[MRH]

Jake -

Hopefully you were able to dry the boat out and continue restoring / refitting Francine. Please provide an update when you have a chance.

[jshisha]

Jake -

Hopefully you were able to dry the boat out and continue restoring / refitting Francine. Please provide an update when you have a chance.

The boat looks great. I had a traveler installed, 9 foot genoa tracks curved around the hull / deck joint, new standing rigging installed, new rub rails, the cockpit drains, and the hardware connecting tiller all have been rechromed, new tiller rolling fuler. Once it is all together will post more pictures. This is like your basic Navy shipbuilding project 4 years overdue and 400% over budget.

[jshisha]

We are basically working on new standing rigging and waiting for the jib to be cut for a furler and new cushions.
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[MRH]

Jake -

Thanks for the photos and congratulations! Old Francine is absolutely beautiful! I may have sailed her for 25 years but she was just waiting for you.

[C38]

Jake, the boat looks fantastic! Can't wait to see her with sails up.

[jshisha]

7398739974007401Still trying to get the yard to finish the puch list, mostly minor stuff but they cannot get thier act together

[mbd]

Beautiful! Thanks for posting the pics. I love the bow shot in the first pic - we all sail some fine looking boats. :)

Hope you have a fantastic season!

[MRH]

Jake - Words cannot express what you have done to old Francine. Beautiful. Just beautiful.

Now its time to enjoy.

[commanderpete]

Francine looking fine on the water

Jake, send me your email for more pics. Your private message mailbox is full.

Peter

[jshisha]

FRANSINE at sunset

[jshisha]

I was walking to town and saw an advertisement for an art show. I was pleasantly surprised to see Francine on the advertisement to the show. I was going to contact the photographer to get a print but was told my daughters are already working on that for dad's birthday present.